10-08-2001, 11:54 PM | #11 | |
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And I do not discern a clear cause and effect relationship between the military actions and the end of terrorism. Though we may cull a generation of terrorists of some of its leaders, more will rise to the occasion in future generations, with reinforced hatred of the west. Therefore I do see a causual relationship that will escalate hostilities in the short term and long term. Push fanantics to fanatical acts with renewed vigour. Better to die a suicide bomber than by a yankee bullet. But I'm just thinking things through, not predicting the future. |
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10-09-2001, 12:02 AM | #12 | |
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we've told them to hand over bin Laden we've warned them we've expressed our goal is to eliminate terroism we've sent help for the casualties what else should we do? negotiate? it only ensures bin Laden's personal victory, therefore, creates more obstacles in the walk of peace bin Laden is like this dog that is not afraid to bite. we must somehow get rid of him before we can reach where we want to go. it is true that some innocents are caught in the cross fire. but that hardly means we are not being responsible. we sent help, that IS a prove that we are taking the responsibility seriously, unlike Taliban, who is also responsible for the death of their people, did nothing but to continuously hiding. edit: bin Laden is like this loose mad dog... [This message has been edited by 250 (edited 10-09-2001).] |
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10-09-2001, 12:07 AM | #13 |
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if we dont strike now, then what? do we wait for him to attack again, to take more lives to hit him back? will we just sit here, and let his terror continue without opposition, until he has everyone in a blanket of fear? we have to hit him sometime, or we will become his puppets no matter what we do.
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yeah, less people will die if we attack now it is only responsible to take actions |
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10-09-2001, 12:13 AM | #15 | |
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Well, we decide whether or not a desicion is the best or more correct based on it consequences. Address the consequences I have outlined in my previous post, and provide more favorable ones based on the current course of action. and be realistic. BTW-We've provided food to Afganistan, before and during the Taliban,for years, its nothing new. |
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10-09-2001, 12:18 AM | #16 | |
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if you disagree with the action, then come up with more constructive ones. now stop whinning. if we are all to sit around and look for spiritual growth instead of taking life out of those dogs who bite, we will all be dead poets |
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10-09-2001, 12:23 AM | #17 |
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yes G'kar, we may have, but we also supported Osama during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
and 250 is right, action is required in most cases instead of spiritual growth. i'm a Christian myself, but i believe that action will save more lives in the long run than inaction. when you think about it, Osama has killed MANY more people than the common people that we will take down as collateral damage. you cant save everybody, and when you try you end up saving nobody, and even letting more die. ------------------ It's simple. Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to heal the injury. The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the injury...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very life of the Planet? Think how much energy would be gathered! Ha, ha, ha. And at the center of that injury, wil be me. All that boundless energy will be mine. By merging with the energy of the Planet, I will be come a new life form, a new existence. Melding with the Planet, I will cease to exist as I am now. Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every living soul. What are you saying? Are you trying to tell me you have feelings now? Ha, ha, ha... Stop acting as if you're sad. And there's no need to act as if you're angry either. Because, Cloud, you are... a puppet. Super Sephiroth, slayer of the Uber Fluffy, and battle co-ordionator and defender of the HADB clan. Follower of the mighty Fallen Paladin himself. Diplomacy is all and well, but HADB is better! Head of the IronWorks Intelligence Division Official Soup Server and bumper of Cloudy's Cafe Possessor of the Aerie Diamond Head from the ALSB. Page in the Court of Lady Lioness Stalking the woodlands, the Lioness in my sight, warm feelings doth come, into my lonely heart |
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rofl! |
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10-09-2001, 12:33 AM | #20 | |
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Whining, hmmm I guess I wont get any reasonable dicourse from you either. |
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