08-09-2011, 05:36 PM | #151 |
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Fresh off the press, I knew the numbers were inaccurate, just really failed to grasp how ludicrous this POTUS is. Was hoping that at least something good could come from the last two years of excessive fraud, waste, abuse and economy meltdown.
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08-10-2011, 01:36 PM | #153 | |
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Also, RTB too much haterade? Quote:
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08-10-2011, 02:11 PM | #155 |
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No. As I stated, for example, I didn't pull any numbers from any website to say Ford is or isn't doing this along with GM. Ford was just the first company that jumped to mind. It doesn't matter to me what companies are or aren't. What matters to me is that companies that are are being rewarded for it. It's not limited to the automotive industry either, is it?
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08-10-2011, 03:41 PM | #156 | |
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08-11-2011, 01:47 AM | #157 | |
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Alabama did give Mercedes lots of tax breaks and they are employing lots of good ole "bama rednecks" They just put in a second plant in the Middle of this economic down turn.... Mercedes Loves Bama rednecks, IRCC all new models will be build here in Alabama. When they come up with a new model they'll build another plant here. Huyndai and Nissan both said hmmmmm what the Hale is going on with Mercedes and Alabama.... They came down here and both built plants.
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08-11-2011, 01:58 AM | #158 |
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Look, we have BMW building it's new X3 in one of the Carolina's. I'm sure there are local incentives and whatnot, just like in JD's example of Mercedes. Local tax laws and perks can always be used to entice business -- look at what Ireland did last decade with the pharmaceutical industry.
But, truth be told, if we -- meaning us in the collective, as in, our nations -- worked as hard at harmonizing worker safety/protection and payment laws as we did at harmonizing our trade balance, it would all even out. For instance, if China had to meet minimum worker standards anywhere near the US/EU, then the siphoning of jobs would maybe not end but be less drastic. Why we want a "free trade" arrangements without making the other aspects of employment and industry equal boggles my mind -- it's not logically compatible. And it doesn't just flow from the US to Mexico or China. Right now, today, there are IKEA workers in the US who do not enjoy anywhere near the benefits or wages that IKEA employees enjoy in Northern Europe, and it's making the papers regularly. If you want "globalization," then you have to actually "globalize" all of these aspects. Then, perhaps, we could end what is ultimately an inefficient exercise in building plants overseas just to send jobs there, just to bring them back once those overseas areas start becoming more prosperous and start demanding more wages/benefits. True "globalization" means normalizing it all so the best usage of time, materials, and workforce is put to use, and if locale can become unimportant, then we will be free of this yoke of shuffling factories and jobs from country to country in effort to game the system. Tax structures only compound the problem and are more gamesmanship. Let's take a hypothetical example. Let's say I'm BMW USA and I would rather pay US taxes: then I will simply keep all my profits in the US, pay US taxes, and pay out my dividends, bonuses, and perks to shareholders and officers. However, if I'm BMW USA and I would rather pay German taxes, then I'll just set up a licensing agreement with the German parent corp. that requires me to turn over X% of my profits to that corp., lessening what I pay in US taxes and shuffling it overseas. It's all a shell game, and, as with my earlier comment, a bit truer normalization would at least stymie, though probably never end, the shell game. Last edited by Timber Loftis; 08-11-2011 at 02:03 AM. |
08-11-2011, 08:22 AM | #159 |
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Those are the kinds of loopholes that need closing. If the company wants to be snippity and build elsewhere, then they'll need to pay import taxes if they want to sell products in the US, and won't that be tough on a US based company. The legal end of this is all mumbo-jumbo to me.
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LOL Yeap this whole thing is a Shell game, and loop holes...
You're right TL about the othe countries not having the regulations we do, that can be solved in several ways: 1)Having them increase to our level 2)Us decrease to their Level 3)Combination of both of the above. Each one of those ways has it's own set of problems and challenges.
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