Is this cheating?

Ultra Marine · 02-05-2006, 03:17 AM

My computer is back ... and I'm having fun. I found a trick -- Double entangles + Grease + 2 handed weapons = death for anything without ranged weapons or 2handed weapons. And I can get 2 of those nice rings in kuladar for my ranger & paladin. So does this make me a cheat?

There is another -- Santuary spell -- makes them stand around. Must be a bug?

Then have a ranger sneak in and stand in one place. Then have some skeletons on mould touch. Then march them in. Looks like cheese me? It doesn't seem fair.

Anyone has the same view?

shamrock_uk · 02-05-2006, 06:34 AM

It's definitely not cheating - you're just using the full range of spells at your disposal. It's possible it may be cheesy if you over-use them (ie. taking advantage of the game engine limitations) but hey, whatever works for you.

Sanctuary making them stand around isn't a bug - it prevents you from being targeted by enemies as long as you don't perform an action I believe. I think it's a bit unfair to use it too much as if you were playing a human opponent they would simply drop a fireball on the flagstones next to you

JrKASperov · 02-05-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
I think it's a bit unfair to use it too much as if you were playing a human opponent they would simply drop a fireball on the flagstones next to you

Nah, they wouldn't be able to notice you in the first place. Doing a trick like that is cheesy.

Aerich · 02-05-2006, 09:25 PM

No, it's not a cheat, UM, it's good strategy. You will find that the Entangle strategy becomes less effective when you fight monsters that have better saves.

The Mold Touch tactic is only cheesy, IMO, if your stealthed/sanctuaried character stands with the enemies at the limit of your vision, such that the Mold touch on the skeletons can transfer over to your enemies without your enemies attacking the skeletons.

[ 02-05-2006, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Aerich ]

ister · 02-06-2006, 08:35 AM

Not cheating. The mold touch might be cheesy, but I don't really think it is.

Azred · 02-06-2006, 02:29 PM

Taking advantage of a loophole in the rules is not cheating; cheating is actively breaking a rule. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

Kyrvias · 02-06-2006, 09:30 PM

I totally agree with you.

02-05-2006, 09:25 PM	#4
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	No, it's not a cheat, UM, it's good strategy. You will find that the Entangle strategy becomes less effective when you fight monsters that have better saves. The Mold Touch tactic is only cheesy, IMO, if your stealthed/sanctuaried character stands with the enemies at the limit of your vision, such that the Mold touch on the skeletons can transfer over to your enemies without your enemies attacking the skeletons. [ 02-05-2006, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Aerich ] __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

02-06-2006, 08:35 AM	#5
ister Drow Warrior Join Date: January 12, 2005 Location: usa Age: 56 Posts: 291	Not cheating. The mold touch might be cheesy, but I don't really think it is. __________________ \" Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.\"<br />JFK

02-06-2006, 02:29 PM	#6
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	Taking advantage of a loophole in the rules is not cheating; cheating is actively breaking a rule. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

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02-05-2006, 03:17 AM	#1
Ultra Marine The Magister Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: Australia Age: 52 Posts: 131	My computer is back ... and I'm having fun. I found a trick -- Double entangles + Grease + 2 handed weapons = death for anything without ranged weapons or 2handed weapons. And I can get 2 of those nice rings in kuladar for my ranger & paladin. So does this make me a cheat? There is another -- Santuary spell -- makes them stand around. Must be a bug? Then have a ranger sneak in and stand in one place. Then have some skeletons on mould touch. Then march them in. Looks like cheese me? It doesn't seem fair. Anyone has the same view?

02-05-2006, 06:34 AM	#2
shamrock_uk Dracolich Join Date: January 24, 2004 Location: UK Age: 41 Posts: 3,092	It's definitely not cheating - you're just using the full range of spells at your disposal. It's possible it may be cheesy if you over-use them (ie. taking advantage of the game engine limitations) but hey, whatever works for you. Sanctuary making them stand around isn't a bug - it prevents you from being targeted by enemies as long as you don't perform an action I believe. I think it's a bit unfair to use it too much as if you were playing a human opponent they would simply drop a fireball on the flagstones next to you

02-06-2006, 09:30 PM	#7
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	I totally agree with you.

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