Why so political?

[Liliara]

When I first came to this board, the topics were casual, not political.
Now I know that I have responded on some of these threads, but only to stand up for what I believe in. I have become quite disheartened with this chain of events. I thought this was a place to get away from the controversy of this world, but alas, I was wrong. I am extremely disappointed and I wonder, is this a common thing? If so, I would like to know, since I thought at first that this was an escape where people of different cultures could unite without the pressures of the outside world.

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[250]

we can hardly ignore whats going in the real world

this place diminish the difference between each individual, therefore, rid us prejudging, so that we can better express ourselves. well, I am chatting with now, I will get back later

[Memnoch]

Liliara, I guess this place is like a huge club - some people like dancing on the dance floor, some like drinking at the bar, some like casual chatting, and some like to sit in the extreme corners and debate passionately about issues. One person's wine is another's poison. Some (controversial) thread topics may prove upsetting, but they are entitled to be posted as long as they do not breach forum guidelines, talk about illegal activities or involve flaming. There are many other posts which are more conversational, escapist type posts (look for anything initiated by Cloudbringer). I guess my best suggestion would be to avoid the threads that might upset you. Just skip over them.

I will be bringing up the possibility of having a "serious discussions" forum with Ziroc in the future - when the time is right for him.

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[250]

sometimes, it is hard to distinct between serious discussion and casual talk. you are saying open a foumr just for serious discussion, right? there is not clear line

[Melusine]

What the genie said
Now Memny, come here and let me retie that knot for you...it's not good for you to talk so much
Liliara: Actually I think one of this forum's strongest points is the enormous diversity of the people that come here and concomitantly the diversity of the topics discussed. It is never dull!

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[Melusine]

Originally posted by 250: sometimes, it is hard to distinct between serious discussion and casual talk. you are saying open a foumr just for serious discussion, right? there is not clear line

Well, that's not always the case. The serious discussions forum at the Mithril Hall works perfectly well.



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[Memnoch]

Liliara, I've just read that entire American politics thread and obviously things got a little heated.

I will repost what I posted there below.


Guys, I've always thought that the wonder of Ironworks was that we could debate controversial issues rationally and prevent ourselves from getting emotional about it. Rahnid, re: your first post on this thread:

Please excuse the arggressive nature of what I'm about to say! Liliara I've got your back babe!( by the way...nice pic!!!)I have to admit its been a long time since I've seen quite a collection of morons and retards in one string! I have the right and ability to place a string of letters after my name(not to mention 12 years of PROUD military service) that would make most of your english professors wonder if that many consonants exist. I'm sick of the little faggity a*s opinions of the current state of American foreign policy in the world without a remotely researched view point. The chinese spy plane incident was the fault of the chinese! "A SMALL PROP AIRPLANE IS INCAPABLE OF PROPOSING A THREAT OR EVEN KEEPING UP WITH ANY TURBINE JET DRIVEN AIRCRAFT!" use your brain !!!!! Put your ignorant statements where they belong,.....perhaps in the local high school newspaper! If any Americans are tired of the way things are progressing here, perhaps you should seek out other places to reside and stop disgracing the men and women who have allowed you the right to voice your protests and who have died for a**holes just like you! I am sick of hearing the uneducated views of people who have never felt what it's like to carry a friend who has been killed in the line of duty serving the country that spits on them when they have died to keep "their" right to act like fu*king jerks alive. So any one of you who think for one moment that there is somewhere out there better suited for what life has to offer, I say "pack your SH*T AND GET THE FUC* OUT OF HERE" join up with billy bob what's his face who thinks that socialism is the "WAY" and live happly ever after! Anyway, keep your rude and insulting opinions to yourself!!!!!

This was out of line, mate, since everyone is entitled to an opinion on this board as long as they state it in a mature and professional way and not personally attack someone in the process. There's no need for the aggression, ok? Nobody was attacking you personally. I'd hate to have to lock the thread because it degenerated into flaming and personal attacks on others. (Welcome to the board, by the way - you picked a hell of a thread to enter ).

Liliara - I appreciate that you feel passionately about this subject, but try to remember that these are just words on a screen and opinions from a multitude of other people. It is diversity of opinion and the freedom to express that which helps us all to learn. Like Voltaire said:

"We may not agree with what the other person says, but let's respect their right to state their opinion."

I myself am an American living in Australia and I didn't see this thread as America-bashing at all - just a vigorous debate. The people on the other side of the fence feel just as passionately about their opinions as you do and in their way care about America just as much. Don't take things personally! Nobody's right or wrong here - it's just opinions from a group of people.

Finally, just some final words of advice - if you feel your blood pressure rising and feel like punching the monitor just stand up and take a walk to calm yourself down. It's just a forum thread, guys! Let's not forget that.


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[This message has been edited by Memnoch (edited 09-07-2001).]

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As always: well said Memnoch!

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[Fljotsdale]

Gosh! That Rahnid guy sounds like a real {edited}! P'raps he should have thought before he posted, or edited it afterwards! I sometimes say things in post that are a little too strong, but when I see it on the page after posting, I go in fast and edit! Rahnid could have made exactly the same points without the abuse. Not difficult. If he is a soldier, I really think he should have more self-control.

Back to Liliara - debate about serious things is good. It makes for greater understanding between widely diverse people and opinions. Surely a good thing? But since you were subjected to that sort of abuse I can understand you feeling as you do! I would be pretty upset and myself!

(((((hugs)))))

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It's not like we all join in the political debates.

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