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Old 11-30-2007, 02:11 PM   #11
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Yes, why would they give a cute teddy bear such an evil name? 'course it seems everybody and everything is named mohammad, so what's one more thing.
If it's not too late, maybe Jesus would be a more fitting name!?
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:43 PM   #12
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I actually think they showed a lot of restraint in only giving her 15 days and it seemed to me like a favor to Britain.

And she really is guilty of inciting hatred. What did she think would happen? Hasn't there been enough attention in the media lately about their prophet? Anyone going in that part of the world should know better.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:01 PM   #13
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We're talking about a teddy bear here. I don't think anyone could have guessed how far this would be blown out of proportions. It certainly isn't comparable to the Danish Cartoon row. That was deliberate critism. This is.. a misunderstanding.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:02 PM   #14
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Not knowing the law is not an excuse for not obeying it...
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:05 PM   #15
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Not knowing the law is not an excuse for not obeying it...
Even if she was aware of the law, she may not have known that the children were referring to the prophet. If that was what they were doing.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:35 PM   #16
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I'm not an expert on their culture but I think if the prophet is such a major figure then all references to his name are assumed a reference to him.

As I said earlier, though, I don't think it was the teachers intent to insult Islam or incite hatred. But apparently intent doesn't account for much in their court systems.
On a side note does their law specify what is to be considered an insult? or is it merely assumed that all would know an insult if they saw it. In which case it's wide open to wildly varied perceptions.
Kind of like ancient japanese culture with the Samurai. A Samurai could kill you on the spot for a perceived insult. He would have to explain, as a matter of courtesy, to onlookers why he felt the offender had to die, but only after he'd killed them. So what is offensive? It was never specified exactly, it was left to the perception of the Samurai and his whims.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:10 PM   #17
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Well then she's guilty of an unpremeditated inciting of riots and hatred.

Here's a middle east survival rule: While in their land and under their laws and customs, never ever mention their prophet, either by name or any other way. Never do anything that could associate you with said prophet.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:32 PM   #18
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In other words, don't touch their religion (period)
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:42 AM   #19
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The more i hear about that religeon, the more i'm convinced that it and it's followers are beyond retarded.

Are we honstly sending aid to countries like Sudan for development and such? What a waste of money that is. Let them kill eachother and die of starvation, let's not get in nature's way.
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:13 AM   #20
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yeh - not good . . .

although the smart money seems to be on the arrest and the subsequent riots having been orchestrated by the Sudanese government as a negotiating position to head off international sanctions over their conduct in Darfur
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