Most Overrated weapon - Page 2

Dundee Slaytern · 07-18-2001, 01:49 PM

I put proficiencies in Flail for Minsc and had him dual-wield the Flail of Ages and some other flail you buy in the Copper Coronet which causes opponents to become unconcious.

It's a cheesy combo, slow them down with the FoA, then whack them with the Sleeper.

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Azred · 07-18-2001, 01:53 PM

The Equalizer--it's only +3; for a "legendary" sword I would think it'd be +5.

Carsomyr--only paladins can use it, Keldorn's innate dispel magic is better, and the extra damage is against chaotic evil beings only.

Wave--how many water elementals have you killed in BG2?

Silver Blade--it is only +3 and the 25% chance to kill outright isn't that great. This is watered down version of the Black Blade of Disaster.

Gesen's Bow--true, it is +4, but it's so slow. Tansheron's Bow is better.

Staff of the Magi--it is +5, but so are Melf's Meteors. Prot. vs evil and invisibility when equipped? I can do those with other items. It can cast Spell Trap once per day. So can I, after level 18, or when I use a scroll (available at any level) or the Rod of Absorption.

IMNSHO, only Celestial Fury, the Flail of Ages, and Crom Faeyr truly live up to their reputations. Oh, and the Sling of Everard.

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The most distressing thing about practicing magic is the fact that even the most learned sorcerers cannot accurately describe what magic *is*....

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Northraven · 07-18-2001, 02:04 PM

The silver Sword is very over-rated, as is Crom Faeyr. You do a tremendous amount of running around to get all the parts for this hammer and then all you get is a relativley low-damage weapon which imparts 25 strength and kills Ettinns, trolls, and clay Golems with one hit?? Granted the 25 strength is a nice perk but as for the instant kill abilities...does anyone even HAVE problems killing Ettins, Trolls, and Clay Golems the old-fashioned way by the time you get Faeyr?

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dimon37 · 07-18-2001, 03:47 PM

I like flail of ages because it gets through the stoneskin. While my mage is casting breach, I sometimes get a hit or two in and interrupt a spell or two. So, don't brush it off simply because you haven't found a use for it.

Throntar · 07-18-2001, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Azred:

Wave--how many water elementals have you killed in BG2?

Actually, the Wave halberd destroys *fire* elementals, salamanders, and something else upon successful hit (no save). It was a weapon created by the Goddess Umberlee for the use of her champion. Umberlee is a goddess of the sea...

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07-18-2001, 04:54 PM

i think its arbanes short sword and the bracers of blinding strike. i mean 2 rounds haste? not worth it IMHO. also skull crusher+3 i mean all it does is +3 damge vs humonoiods, the mace of disruption is much better esp. once its coatedin illitium giveing you level drain protection.

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Staralfur · 07-18-2001, 05:01 PM

I would suggest that it depends on how you play the game, who's in your party etc...

For instance your tactics might not suite a particular weapon so it is not used to it's full potential.

Only a thought though.

Azred · 07-18-2001, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Throntar:
Actually, the Wave halberd destroys *fire* elementals....

at myself. whoopsie! That will count as my one mistake for the day.

just out of curiosity, why aren't there any water elementals in BG2?

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An intelligent mind is the key to the universe.

The most distressing thing about practicing magic is the fact that even the most learned sorcerers cannot accurately describe what magic *is*....

Who are you? What do you want?

deathknight · 07-18-2001, 05:10 PM

IMHO whoever listed staff of the magi and 3 or 4 reasons why its overrated just think about that. I can see saying yeah this 1 thing I can do with this spell or this other thing I can do with another spell. But common thats a whole list of things. I mean I can do just as much damage with a butter knife as I could do with the crom faeyr if you give me enough attacks and enough buff spells and such. The staff has some real good uses, especially in the hands of a multiclassed thief. Being able to backstab and go invis over and over in plain view is nice...

Northraven · 07-18-2001, 05:48 PM

Amd let's not forget that the staff of the Magi lets you cast spelltrap...probably the best spell protection a mage can have in BGII...

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07-18-2001, 01:49 PM	#11
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	I put proficiencies in Flail for Minsc and had him dual-wield the Flail of Ages and some other flail you buy in the Copper Coronet which causes opponents to become unconcious. It's a cheesy combo, slow them down with the FoA, then whack them with the Sleeper. ------------------ If not a Sorcerer, then a Paladin.

07-18-2001, 01:53 PM	#12
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	The Equalizer--it's only +3; for a "legendary" sword I would think it'd be +5. Carsomyr--only paladins can use it, Keldorn's innate dispel magic is better, and the extra damage is against chaotic evil beings only. Wave--how many water elementals have you killed in BG2? Silver Blade--it is only +3 and the 25% chance to kill outright isn't that great. This is watered down version of the Black Blade of Disaster. Gesen's Bow--true, it is +4, but it's so slow. Tansheron's Bow is better. Staff of the Magi--it is +5, but so are Melf's Meteors. Prot. vs evil and invisibility when equipped? I can do those with other items. It can cast Spell Trap once per day. So can I, after level 18, or when I use a scroll (available at any level) or the Rod of Absorption. IMNSHO, only Celestial Fury, the Flail of Ages, and Crom Faeyr truly live up to their reputations. Oh, and the Sling of Everard. ------------------ An intelligent mind is the key to the universe. The most distressing thing about practicing magic is the fact that even the most learned sorcerers cannot accurately describe what magic is.... Who are you? What do you want? [This message has been edited by Azred (edited 07-18-2001).]

07-18-2001, 02:04 PM	#13
Northraven Manshoon Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Currently a land called Weyrth... Age: 45 Posts: 195	The silver Sword is very over-rated, as is Crom Faeyr. You do a tremendous amount of running around to get all the parts for this hammer and then all you get is a relativley low-damage weapon which imparts 25 strength and kills Ettinns, trolls, and clay Golems with one hit?? Granted the 25 strength is a nice perk but as for the instant kill abilities...does anyone even HAVE problems killing Ettins, Trolls, and Clay Golems the old-fashioned way by the time you get Faeyr? ------------------ "I am death come for thee. Surrender and thy passage shall be...swifter" "Kneel before the cow god!"

07-18-2001, 03:47 PM	#14
dimon37 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: March 26, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 349	I like flail of ages because it gets through the stoneskin. While my mage is casting breach, I sometimes get a hit or two in and interrupt a spell or two. So, don't brush it off simply because you haven't found a use for it.

07-18-2001, 04:54 PM	#16
Dramnek_Ulk Guest Posts: n/a	i think its arbanes short sword and the bracers of blinding strike. i mean 2 rounds haste? not worth it IMHO. also skull crusher+3 i mean all it does is +3 damge vs humonoiods, the mace of disruption is much better esp. once its coatedin illitium giveing you level drain protection. ------------------ It was then that Toril knew the return of Lord Bane

07-18-2001, 05:01 PM	#17
Staralfur Baaz Draconian Join Date: April 8, 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Age: 44 Posts: 786	I would suggest that it depends on how you play the game, who's in your party etc... For instance your tactics might not suite a particular weapon so it is not used to it's full potential. Only a thought though.

07-18-2001, 05:10 PM	#19
deathknight Drow Warrior Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Niles,Il USA Posts: 298	IMHO whoever listed staff of the magi and 3 or 4 reasons why its overrated just think about that. I can see saying yeah this 1 thing I can do with this spell or this other thing I can do with another spell. But common thats a whole list of things. I mean I can do just as much damage with a butter knife as I could do with the crom faeyr if you give me enough attacks and enough buff spells and such. The staff has some real good uses, especially in the hands of a multiclassed thief. Being able to backstab and go invis over and over in plain view is nice...

07-18-2001, 05:48 PM	#20
Northraven Manshoon Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Currently a land called Weyrth... Age: 45 Posts: 195	Amd let's not forget that the staff of the Magi lets you cast spelltrap...probably the best spell protection a mage can have in BGII... ------------------ "I am death come for thee. Surrender and thy passage shall be...swifter" "Kneel before the cow god!"

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