05-02-2011, 01:34 PM | #41 |
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Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead - USA has body!
Guys. Drop the petty arguments. No one of you is ever going to convince anyone to change their vote. So quit it already.
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Glad we got OBL.
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That said, this quote (attributed to Mark Twain) seems very apropos: Quote:
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05-02-2011, 04:06 PM | #44 |
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I like what Panch Villa said: "I have never regretted killing a man, but I have often regretted not killing one.
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05-02-2011, 05:15 PM | #45 |
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Or General Patton: "You don't win a war by dying for your country. You make the other bastard die for his..."
Bacon sandwiches all around!!!
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05-02-2011, 05:59 PM | #46 | |
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05-02-2011, 06:40 PM | #47 | |
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There is no way they will reveal any names or faces of the team. It will not happen. I'm assuming it was United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group that did this. Thats the Navy version of Delta.
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The actual success of the mission, however, goes to those that were on the ground and the ones that gathered the intelligence that made the mission possible in the first place. I was going to suggest to people go back and re-read my first post, especially since Wellard was kind enough to re-post it for everyone (thanks, Wellard ). If you do that, you will see that I did not criticize Obama in any way, I just didn't give him full credit for the success of the mission. I didn't even suggest Obama was taking full credit, just that others were doing so. I realize there are some who consider anything less than 100% sycophantic support of Obama to be the same as criticism, but there's not much I can do about that. I finally got to watch Obama's full speech this morning. Overall, I felt he gave an excellent speech - probably the best of his career, in fact. Some folks (in discussions on other forums I visit) felt he put a little too much emphasis on "I" did thus and such at the beginning of he speech, but he wasn't taking credit for anything he didn't do and some of the points were things ONLY he could have done (like given final authorization for the operation). Some of the other points were things I considered to be part of his job; meeting with his staff members regularly and staying on top of the situation. But this IS an epic victory for him no matter how you look at it and will likely serve to cement his standing as the most historic President in modern times. It will also probably cement his victory in 2012 as well. So, I can't blame him for crowing just a little bit. I do think he deserves that much. Oh....I also give him credit for timing his speech to "coincidentally" pre-empt the last 15 minutes of The Apprentice. Now that is the kind of Executive Decision I can appreciate. As I said before, I give Obama the credit he deserves for the mission, I just don't give him all the credit. And he did the same thing - giving proper credit where it was due.
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05-02-2011, 07:10 PM | #49 |
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Agree.
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How did you not see the speech? It was on every channel as we were discussing it last night, not to mention all over the interwebs.
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