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Old 03-19-2003, 04:05 PM   #11
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Do you think the original poster believes all who oppose a war against Iraq at this time are cowards. If he does he an idiot!
I don't know if this is a statement or a question or both. Unusually for you, your grammar does you a diservice I think.

To set the record straight.
I do not think all who oppose war are cowards.
I don't particularly feel devastated watching the video. As I clearly stated, these men were possibly/probably cheering when the twin towers went down. It's a war on terrorism in Afghanistan video. I don't want to get drawn into political arguments per se regarding innocent civillians and military. The dreadful fact of today is that just because someone looks like an innocent civillian doesn't mean they're not military, hence suicide bombers and the like.....I digress...

The point was that it's chilling stuff, not just in Afghanistan by the US, but in Palestine and other places all over the world and all over the years. It's something I can't comprehend, that pure ferocity. All of our forces have come under bombardment at some time in history, I pray God I never will. To see how it happens in the above mentioned example is, as I said, chilling.

On a footnote....I happen to believe the RAF are the finest airmen in the world bar none, but then I would.
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Old 03-19-2003, 04:38 PM   #12
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First, these men were sheering when thousands of innocent Americans died.
Now, we are cheering over their horrible demise.
I hope, that some day, the children of the children of my children will live in a better world then this.
For the record; you may call me a sad idealist. But I don’t use the name Dreamer128 for nothing
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Old 03-19-2003, 04:53 PM   #13
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First, these men were sheering when thousands of innocent Americans died.
Now, we are cheering over their horrible demise.
I hope, that some day, the children of the children of my children will live in a better world then this.
For the record; you may call me a sad idealist. But I don’t use the name Dreamer128 for nothing
Who was cheering? While I am certaintly glad and feel safe in knowing that my country has the capabilty to do this type of thing, I dont think anyone has 'cheered' in this thread.

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Old 03-19-2003, 06:23 PM   #14
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I'm going to have to agree with Donut on this one.

The last three words completely change the message of that otherwise well written post. The writer may have meant those three words in the way Attalus suggests, but even so, those three words change the entire premise of the statement.

Lets all take a step back and breath.
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Old 03-19-2003, 06:29 PM   #15
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Evidently I'm lost here.
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Old 03-19-2003, 06:59 PM   #16
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Evidently I'm lost here.
Not you knuckle head! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

You are absolutely right about the video being chilling.
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Old 03-19-2003, 07:04 PM   #17
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I'm with it now Ronn. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:22 PM   #18
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Old 03-19-2003, 11:25 PM   #19
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Morbidly fascinating..
Thanks for that vid..
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Old 03-20-2003, 07:30 AM   #20
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]So Donut, do you actually have an opinion that you'd like to post, or are you just namecalling? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Of course I have an opinion, like yourself I have an opinion on everything.

Many ex-soldiers in the UK have spoken out against this war. Some even fought in the 1st Gulf War, one was even captured and beaten by the Iraqis and paraded on TV. Do you call them cowards because they oppose a war against Iraq at this time?

It doesn't take a great deal of bravery for a person to support a war which will be fought thousands of miles away by people he doesn't even know. In my world standing up for what you believe in doesn't make you a coward, it's just the right thing to do. (Rant mode off and can't find the smiley)
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