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Old 01-06-2005, 08:17 PM   #31
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Without any liklihood of being correct, I just keep wondering if there is any legal way to get in Cet's tomb without having to do Collassium.

In the speed game it strikes me that Collassium is the only real hurdle, everything else is really just travelling, and of course killing dragon, but thats fast.
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Old 01-06-2005, 10:31 PM   #32
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plenty: does the vanish only work if you've given Kerah the holy water, or is Cet only there if you've gone through the Cet-Kerah conflict?

Mr Creosote: The only way I can think of would be to try to vanish into the entry room. I don't know if that's been tried before or not...

Also, swimming backward is rather easy if you've got someone with the map open. You just have to watch out for ending up on the shore or hung up in the brush on the side of the water. Once you know the general lay of the land, it's a lot easier too. The only place I have a problem with it is in the tunnel by the oracles. All you see in the map is rocky ground, so you can't see the path of the river there.
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Old 01-07-2005, 06:07 AM   #33
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One has free access to the entry room. One needs the tablets to be able to flip the lever.
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Old 01-07-2005, 02:46 PM   #34
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Bungleau:
- The vanish only works if you've given Kerah the holy water, else the spell simply faills.
- I have never been there before Kerahs and Cets randevu, becose the spell fails.
- I think that this part of the tomb location is beeing reload after the conflict.
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Old 01-07-2005, 02:51 PM   #35
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Oh, one more thing: when u are near that dors before giving holly water to Kerah, there are doors and 2 stabes, and vanish fails. After the conflict, u can see the tomb (doors are gone). Stabes are still there, but are vanishible.
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Old 01-07-2005, 11:43 PM   #36
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Thanks, bsftcs. I'd forgotten what that entry room looked like [img]smile.gif[/img]

I'll have to try your suggestions when I get to a speed game, plenty. I've actually run into the opposite issue with the door to Cet's tomb: I've cleared out the bars, but the door was still there. Conclusion of the Kerah-Cet confrontation removes it.
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Old 01-09-2005, 07:54 PM   #37
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On swimming backwards:

I'm not really a fan. The real speed can be found two ways:
  • If there's air above the water, go skipping.
  • If to the roof, push up against the roof and slide.
Skipping works great: Just look about 45 degrees above the horizon & start running.
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:05 AM   #38
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Just made my first attempt at the speed game - 43 minutes.
Took 10 minutes to Brimlock Roon dock.
Longest part is after this, getting to Collassium.
I go around the top of the western sea to the shrine, then vanish through to the desert - Any better ways?
A couple of tips to reduce time (if you go my way)
1. Cast a portal at the western desert. Then when you exit Collassium, you just teleport back there.
2. As soon as you get in Collassium, create a portal. Once you get the first tablet, teleport back there.
3. Put next portal as per Aluph-Null's tip, at the entrance to the rotating room.

Slaying Cet is the easiest part (if you are at a high level). I actually have to do him in before he finishes speaking or i get a bug.

Tried swimming backwards - definitely agree with aleph-null1 there. Skipping is heaps quicker.

Here goes for the next attempt.
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Old 01-16-2005, 12:42 PM   #39
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Originally posted by Greidee:
Just made my first attempt at the speed game - 43 minutes.
Took 10 minutes to Brimlock Roon dock.
Longest part is after this, getting to Collassium.
I go around the top of the western sea to the shrine, then vanish through to the desert - Any better ways?
A couple of tips to reduce time (if you go my way)
1. Cast a portal at the western desert. Then when you exit Collassium, you just teleport back there.
2. As soon as you get in Collassium, create a portal. Once you get the first tablet, teleport back there.
3. Put next portal as per Aluph-Null's tip, at the entrance to the rotating room.

Slaying Cet is the easiest part (if you are at a high level). I actually have to do him in before he finishes speaking or i get a bug.

Tried swimming backwards - definitely agree with aleph-null1 there. Skipping is heaps quicker.

Here goes for the next attempt.
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I've not done a speed game but I would think vanishing to the Lost Sea near the Shrine of Anephas would place you closer to Colassium and save time.
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Old 01-17-2005, 03:38 PM   #40
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Thanks Wyvern! My pixie is charged up, but i'm getting serious wrist strain! Have to have a couple of brews first. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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