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Old 09-15-2001, 02:49 AM   #1
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...Oh I was just curious. I hear about the experienced vets soloing the game (which I still find amazing - I have to try that someday); these players must know BG2 inside/out, forwards/backwards - proper strategies & spells for each battle depending on the party, efficient sequence in which to do the quests, etc.

So I was just wondering if there were any godlike Grand Master players out here who can claim they beat the game without reloading even once. This means that not only did the PC never die, but also the player never reloaded the game after a "less-than-perfect" victory. ("WHOO-HOO! We won! Wait... Oh my god - they disintegrated Edwin! - YOU BASTARD!!! Who's going to be our lead mage now?!") And you wouldn't have to do every quest - just beat the game. AND OF COURSE without using any 'cheesy' ('cheatzy'?) tactics - the experts wouldn't have to resort to that. Sure, you might know in advance what you would encounter, but still, to pull off every victory ROLE-PLAYING as if the party didn't exactly know what they were going to encounter - that would be awesome... have to keep your guard up at all times, and each battle would truly be a life-&-death matter.

I imagine that would be the ultimate role-playing achievement in BG2 - unless some LUNATIC thinks s/he can do EVERY quest SOLO without reloads

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Old 09-15-2001, 02:50 AM   #2
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not me that would be hard to do i thing not one reload ...
dont thing so .
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Old 09-15-2001, 05:09 AM   #3
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Hmmm. I could try a two day solo session without loading the game.
Might be fun

I can't say that I have.
Also, can you give me a definition of cheezy tactics?
I've found that what's intolarable to one is perfectly acceptable to another (except for the open-door-cast-cloudkill-run-and-close-door-on-way-out tactic, and several others like that)

But, I'm sure that there are a couple of people with too much time who've managed to do it.

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Old 09-15-2001, 05:15 AM   #4
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I've done it with very few, eight or nine tops, but doing it with none....

The random chance of being disintegrated or figer of deathed could end your non realoding spree pretty quickly...

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Old 09-15-2001, 05:30 AM   #5
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Personally, I don't think that any tactic is cheesy.
The BEST tactic is the one that costs you the least in health, items and spells.

It's a bit like saying to a soldier "using those tanks and planes is a bit cheesy. Put down your gun and go in there with just your bayonet..." yeah, right....
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Old 09-15-2001, 05:50 AM   #6
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Or is it a bit like saying 'Throw another nuclear bomb on the soldiers fighting with the bajonets. I don't know how it is possible, but each time we did it only the enemy's troops were killed...' ?



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Old 09-15-2001, 06:00 AM   #7
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Well, the trick is not to be there when you drop the bomb. When you use cloudkill for instance, you tend to cast it out of range of your party - not drop it at your feet...
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Old 09-15-2001, 06:00 AM   #8
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There are some battles where you reload a lot, but other times none...

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Old 09-15-2001, 11:26 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by Skunk:
Personally, I don't think that any tactic is cheesy.
The BEST tactic is the one that costs you the least in health, items and spells.

It's a bit like saying to a soldier "using those tanks and planes is a bit cheesy. Put down your gun and go in there with just your bayonet..." yeah, right....
I guess we can define "cheesy" tactics as being those that take advantage of an inadequacy in the game's AI and fail logic checks. This is generally a subjective adjective as what is cheesy to one person may be legitimate to another. Tactics such as casting cloudkill on opponents that are out of range and killing them while they stand there is generally considered cheesy, as the AI is not designed to get these enemies to react, when logic would suggest that they should be scurrying frantically away.

At the end of the day, as long as you're deriving enjoyment from whatever tactics you use, go for it. It's your game, enjoy it the way you want to.

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Old 09-15-2001, 12:56 PM   #10
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Personally I like throwing fireballs around corners. Its a quick way to do the start of the game. Just get Imoen to cast fire shield red before you throw the fire ball just incase. It'll kill all the goblins in one go and the dwarfs in a few without you getting attacked.

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