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Old 11-26-2002, 03:31 PM   #1
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Tony Blair has done nothing he promised but bum president bush all year, he promised better education, better school equipment and loads of other stuff, and yet all he seems to be bothered is war on terror, i say its Americas Problem, he has put us all in danger, because of what he did, Bin Laden has threatened to Terrorise England now.

Sure i feel really bad about what happened on September the 11th, but now we are involved and all our lives are at risk thanks to blair and his big noble thoughts. I say if he loves bush so much he should just go live with him over there, because in my opinion England dont need him!

This is my opinion and i feel strongly about it... Many others do. He sure aint got my vote next election, in my opinion he is a liar, he cant keep his promises, and hes probably as mad as Bin Laden, wanting to start wars on Afganistan and even IRAQ now!!!

What is he thinking, is he trying to doom us all, pretty soon we will have all asia hating america and england. I for one am not happy about this situation. I belive that we should leave Americas problems to Amberica.

It has nothing to do with England and Tony blair has no right to go poking his
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Old 11-26-2002, 03:35 PM   #2
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Purely for the sake of clarification...England, and all of the rest of Europe was already in bin Laden/Al Queda's sights. They have been for years. You folks over there are just as much 'The Great Satan' as we are.

And, this is just the opinion of one American, I think Tony has done a fine job. Again...just my opinion.
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Old 11-26-2002, 03:38 PM   #3
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Thanks for replying, I like americans, i like the english, but Tony Blair is not even popular in England, You should see some of the TV shows he allos to go on TV, its verry offensive to loads of famous people (including President Bush, Even him self) Its called 2D TV.

I really dont like Tony Blair, again this is just my opinion. I still think that he is a jerk...
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Old 11-26-2002, 03:40 PM   #4
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As an American, I thank you for your support - NOT. Look, don't know if you realized it, but cafe bombs and wacko extremist shootings were much more a European problem than an American one until the very recent past.

And, oh, aren't you glad America didn't take this attitude in the 1940's? Hell, London was pretty much bombed into the ground *with* our help. Without it, that little channel between you and Continental Europe would now be named something with many more consonants in it, I'm sure.
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Old 11-26-2002, 03:42 PM   #5
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Thanks for replying, I like americans, i like the english, but Tony Blair is not even popular in England, You should see some of the TV shows he allos to go on TV, its verry offensive to loads of famous people (including President Bush, Even him self) Its called 2D TV.

I really dont like Tony Blair, again this is just my opinion. I still think that he is a jerk...
NP Gilgamesh. [img]smile.gif[/img] LOLOL...well, I dont know how it's dont in England, but here, the President has no direct saw in what goes on TV. Congress does...in a marginal sort of way. But mostly, it's a free for all. And believe me, we get more than our share of tripe here too. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Although, TBH, I watch several british comedies on a weekly basis, and by and large, they are pretty damn funny. Actual, intellectual humor, as opposed to the belch, fart, and 'pube' jokes that you mostly see on American TV lately. [img]smile.gif[/img]

EDIT...Oh, and since I noticed that you just recently joined the forum...WELCOME TO IW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Head on over to Cloudy's Cafe to be officially welcomed, if you haven't already. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Old 11-26-2002, 03:45 PM   #6
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No i dont think so, i think that England are capable of beating anyone in a wark, records state we have lost lost only 1 war in the last 1000 years, go check if you want. My status is correct.

I am proud to be English, as any Englishman is, and ill fight any war for my country and beat it. I know England would have won, even with out Americas help. Old sources state that people in America use to be English too. Enland saild over there in 1400's and started to build a civilization there. Really America belongs to the Natives, and really most Americans have English blood in them. I know this being a Historian, and recently doing work on it. It was around the time of Christiphor Columbos, and Queen Elizibeth. (correct me if im wrong, but i dont think America goes that far back)
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Old 11-26-2002, 03:46 PM   #7
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Well I really believe that terrorism is every ones problem. Living in Canada and having these so called cells settting up base on my home town turf is not a option for me.

Even if Tony Blair did not join up with Mr Bush how long do you think it would take for terror to hit your country. It would happen sooner or later so why not take the threat out now while you can. Besides being apart of NATO do you not feel that your counrty needs to help out. At least if you help out the next time there is trouble you can ask for help. Sitting back and doing nothing will get you no help whenyou need it most. Sometimes you need to give a little before you get a little in return.

I know that I am not going to change your mind I am just giving some other things to think about. You have a right to believe what you want that is your right. I just have a different view.

I wish we all could get along in this world but we can not so something needs to be done to keep the peace. If some one did not help keep the balance where do you think we would be right now. Just look at all the past history. Do not forget the US has done alot of good things in the world as well. Every one just looks at the bad. That seems to be human nature.

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Old 11-26-2002, 03:48 PM   #8
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Thanks for welcoming me Nachtrafe, im having a great time, most people here at IW are really cool, and i love American Comedies, like the Fresh prince, or the Simpsons.

I like america and england, i just dont believe in whats going on at the moment, i can forsee world war 3 starting out soon, America, England, Iraq, Afganistan, etc)
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Old 11-26-2002, 03:50 PM   #9
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I understand what you mean Mack, i want peace too, but doesnt it sound a bit stupid starting a war to make peace? (war on terrorism) for world peace?

Mmm... Ill have to think this one through...
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Old 11-26-2002, 03:50 PM   #10
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I can't speak to what Mr Blair promised vs did/did not do. But I can say he was one of the very few that realized terrorism is NOT our (USA) problem. It is everyone's problem. If you aren't muslim, you don't treat your women as property and don't want to kill everyone else, then you ARE one of those everyone else. The USA happens to be the biggest, most visible target, but we ain't the only ones, pal. Did you want to wait until some terror group flies a plane into Big-Ben, or would you like to stop that BEFORE it happens? Hmmm. Stopping the terror, participating in the war ON terror (all of them, including IRAQ, TYVM) is a way Blair is protecting people of the UK. It's an elected office, right? If you can do better, run for office and prove it.

Oh, and pull a crapload of extra cash out of your butt to fix all the problems that Blair has not. I'm not flaming you (much) but things are not as easy as you put them, methinks.
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