OMG! Huh?

Willard · 10-09-2002, 06:37 PM

{SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!}
do NOT read if you have not finished chap. 2!!!!
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When fighting the Spirit of the wood in the Neverwinter woods, I was down to my last harming spell (I am a cleric). I cast Negative Energy Ray on the stag, and it healed him! Getting an idea, I cast my most powerful healing spell on it and killed it. Why is the spirit of the wood an undead creature?

TheGrandSlayer · 10-09-2002, 06:52 PM

for why its undead
Easy,the spirit of the wood's a spirit,

[ 10-09-2002, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: TheGrandSlayer ]

Willard · 10-09-2002, 07:52 PM

But undead creatures are evil. The spirit of the wood is good. It doesn't even look like a spirit at all! Just a shiny deer.........

Glorfindel · 10-09-2002, 11:34 PM

LOL.... well obviously this spirit is an exception to being bad [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Whailor · 10-10-2002, 04:02 AM

Well, you DID read and listen to the locals, didn't you? The Spirit Realm is an area, which is between the "land" of living and dead. You even had to stab yourself to get into the spirit's world. So it's perfectly clear why it was considered as an "undead" [img]smile.gif[/img]

However, not all "undead" are evil. The word "undead" is used to describe evil ones, but the "undead" as such is actually a state, not a type or alignment. There are "evil" and there are "good" spirits, and this one was the last one.

the new JR Jansen · 10-10-2002, 04:12 AM

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Originally posted by Whailor:
Well, you DID read and listen to the locals, didn't you? The Spirit Realm is an area, which is between the "land" of living and dead. You even had to stab yourself to get into the spirit's world. So it's perfectly clear why it was considered as an "undead" [img]smile.gif[/img]

However, not all "undead" are evil. The word "undead" is used to describe evil ones, but the "undead" as such is actually a state, not a type or alignment. There are "evil" and there are "good" spirits, and this one was the last one.

Indeed, some more examples of 'good' undead are Ullcaster from BG and the undead elves in the severed hand in IWD.

Wulfere · 10-10-2002, 06:53 AM

Not to mention the Elven Liches, Baelnorn (spelling?)
I hadn't thought of that angle. Healing undead to kill them.
Good thinking. I have used it in PnP games but, just never
thought of it for NWN's.
I didn't think that the designers would be that faithful to the rules.

Guenhwyvar & Catti-brie · 10-13-2002, 07:06 PM

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Go back to a saved game and use the Spirit Antidote on the deer. It will then show you everything that happened to it, and even give you an item, then put you back into the real world. Then go back to the druid circle and talk to the Head guy there. He'll give you a cloak.

Willard · 10-13-2002, 07:29 PM

He doesn't give you a cloak! He only gave me money.... but I got a good level up in the deal, so that's something. And why does it say that someone put the slab back under the tree, because ***BIG SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!**
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I thought that was where Mougrim got his Word of Power, but the stupid deer said that someone put it back. What the heck?

Guenhwyvar & Catti-brie · 10-15-2002, 10:53 PM

you have to remember, that depending on what race, class, alignment you are, decides the rewards you get. And the choices you've made previously in the game.

10-09-2002, 06:37 PM	#1
Willard Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Age: 32 Posts: 1,752	{SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!} do NOT read if you have not finished chap. 2!!!! \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| V When fighting the Spirit of the wood in the Neverwinter woods, I was down to my last harming spell (I am a cleric). I cast Negative Energy Ray on the stag, and it healed him! Getting an idea, I cast my most powerful healing spell on it and killed it. Why is the spirit of the wood an undead creature? __________________

10-09-2002, 06:52 PM	#2
TheGrandSlayer Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: October 5, 2001 Location: In front of my computer Age: 32 Posts: 860	for why its undead Easy,the spirit of the wood's a spirit, [ 10-09-2002, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: TheGrandSlayer ] __________________ [img]\"http://www.thepunishermerchandise.com/television/amazing_spider-man/animated_punisher.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />\"Hey Mr.Smith!\"<br />\"Dave...\"<br />\"SPACKER Dave!\"

10-09-2002, 07:52 PM	#3
Willard Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Age: 32 Posts: 1,752	But undead creatures are evil. The spirit of the wood is good. It doesn't even look like a spirit at all! Just a shiny deer......... __________________

10-10-2002, 04:02 AM	#5
Whailor Avatar Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Posts: 532	Well, you DID read and listen to the locals, didn't you? The Spirit Realm is an area, which is between the "land" of living and dead. You even had to stab yourself to get into the spirit's world. So it's perfectly clear why it was considered as an "undead" [img]smile.gif[/img] However, not all "undead" are evil. The word "undead" is used to describe evil ones, but the "undead" as such is actually a state, not a type or alignment. There are "evil" and there are "good" spirits, and this one was the last one. __________________

10-13-2002, 07:29 PM	#9
Willard Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Age: 32 Posts: 1,752	He doesn't give you a cloak! He only gave me money.... but I got a good level up in the deal, so that's something. And why does it say that someone put the slab back under the tree, because *BIG SPOILER!!!!!!!!!! S S S S S S S S S S S P P P P P P P O O O I I I L L L E E R R R \| \| \| V I thought that was where Mougrim got his Word of Power, but the stupid deer said that someone put it back. What the heck? __________________

10-09-2002, 11:34 PM	#4
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 36 Posts: 3,337	LOL.... well obviously this spirit is an exception to being bad [img]tongue.gif[/img]

10-10-2002, 06:53 AM	#7
Wulfere Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: March 20, 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska USA Age: 63 Posts: 893	Not to mention the Elven Liches, Baelnorn (spelling?) I hadn't thought of that angle. Healing undead to kill them. Good thinking. I have used it in PnP games but, just never thought of it for NWN's. I didn't think that the designers would be that faithful to the rules.

10-13-2002, 07:06 PM	#8
Guenhwyvar & Catti-brie Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 8, 2002 Location: Tacoma, WA, USA Age: 41 Posts: 26	Spoiler \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ Go back to a saved game and use the Spirit Antidote on the deer. It will then show you everything that happened to it, and even give you an item, then put you back into the real world. Then go back to the druid circle and talk to the Head guy there. He'll give you a cloak.

10-15-2002, 10:53 PM	#10
Guenhwyvar & Catti-brie Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 8, 2002 Location: Tacoma, WA, USA Age: 41 Posts: 26	you have to remember, that depending on what race, class, alignment you are, decides the rewards you get. And the choices you've made previously in the game.

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