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Or is shooting everybody dead your answer to everything?[/QUOTE]Yeah actually I DO believe mass murderers should be executed immediatley upon arres. However in this case he has had his trial, and now he lives a far more comfy life than many of those who suffered his atrocities.[/QUOTE]i totally agree... henry kissinger should be shot in the back of his head and his carcass left to rot and be eaten by vultures. wait, you we were talking about kissinger right?
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In the UK we dont have the death penalty - and whats the result? Millions of pounds of taxpayers money (including mine) get spent keeping prisoners in prison - even when its not luxurious is expensive.
Of course, at the same time our schools are getting to be a joke (When i was there - couple year back now - we were using textbooks 20 years old, never enough chem lab equipment (fair enough we did break quite of lot of that [img]smile.gif[/img] etc etc), our health system is (apparently, i havent been in there recently) near collapse and every other week we hear about some child being murdered or abducted. Im not saying the death penalty should be applied lightly, or that it woudl solve all of these problems, but a couple of million pounds could go a long way under a competent government. Now, theres another thing we need...
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I've posted the link to the investigation implicating the aboveon this board before in another thread, can't be bothered to search for it now. Probably one of the times the death penalty was discussed on this board.
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Or is shooting everybody dead your answer to everything?[/QUOTE]Yeah actually I DO believe mass murderers should be executed immediatley upon arres. However in this case he has had his trial, and now he lives a far more comfy life than many of those who suffered his atrocities.[/QUOTE]How backwards and ignorant! What if you were falsely arrested of mass murder? Or a loved one? Law enforcement isn't perfect - they're all human. Trials are here for a reason - to ensure that the guilty party is truly guilty. If we did away with that, no doubt some unscrupulous people would take advantage of the system and rub out innocent people without trial. I'm sure it's easy for you to sit there and tell people how the world should be when you have seen so little of it yourself.[/QUOTE]Wow! You are a liberals liberal [img]smile.gif[/img] dnot even his own lawyer tried to claim he was innocent [img]smile.gif[/img] I think we should set him free and have him live next door to you [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Did I say he was innocent? No! Please don't misquote me. I think he is guilty as sin, however we need trials even for the most despicable of criminals. Your Gestapo-type situation will just bring misery and oppression. In addition, am I a "liberal's liberal" for not believing in tactics normally used in fascist and totalitarian states? [ 04-16-2002, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: Alexander ]
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First, I never attacked you. I said your comments were arrogant. If you take offense to that, that is not my problem. Second, quite frankly, I don't care where you have been. Yes, I have done all that, too, and I may very well be able to match you place for place. However, if there is one thing I've learned during my journeys, it's that the United States is not the capital of the world. I would think that someone as well-traveled as yourself would realize that Americans have NO RIGHT telling other people how to live their lives, especially when the United States have a lot of questionable policies and attitudes itself. I also realize that everyone has a right to their opinion, and I did not say that you didn't have a right to yours. Please do not turn this into a pissing contest, because I am trying to discuss the topic at hand.
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Alexander, I get the impression that you're too keen to rub your own country's face in the dirt, but the reasons you give aren't adequate to justify your own harsh criticism. I'll admit the laws are somewhat lax with regards to firearms, but I'm sorry, if you feel that is a good enough reason to condemn your own country then I fail to see where you're coming from. Shootings happen all over the world. Take a large country like China or Russia - these countries breathe corruption and I sincerely doubt the crime rate of these two nations is considerably lower than that of the US.[/QUOTE]Who says I condemn my own country? On the contrary, I love my country. I was born here, I have lived here for most of my life, and I shall probably die here. I am proud to be an American. However, I am not the kind of patriot who will support his country no matter what they do. I am the kind of patriot who seeks ways to improve his country. America will never be perfect, however I would very much like to do my part to make it as close to perfect as possible. By the way, China has 1/10th the crime rate of the United States. However, I never said we should be more like Russia or China, so comparing the two countries is pointless. Quote:
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Anyway, I respect the humility and the sense of responsibility displayed by the Dutch goverment, traits sorely lacking in many of my so-called leaders here in America.
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