The best of tactical combat RPG

[--Twilight--]

Hello,
I loved Wasteland, the X-Coms, and the Jagged Alliance series! As far as this genre goes, is there any game out there that would, seriously, be good enough to added to this list?

- Twilight

[ 07-19-2002, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: --Twilight-- ]

[andrewas]

Lasersquad and, er, thats it. Um, Shogun : Total War has similarites to X-COM but its in real time.

[Neb]

Played all of the X-coms and both of the Jagged Alliance games, loved them [img]smile.gif[/img] Hm, I've seen two X-com games that I haven't played, though X-Com: Enforcer and X-Com: Alliance.

I think that Enforcer is a 1st/3rd person shooter. But does anyone know what X-com: Alliance is?

[whacky]

Swat 2 'ne one ?
Anyways But i like dark reign 2 and X-COM Apocalypse, and yes in real time cause turn based is too stupid in my opinion. Swat 3 is also so so.

[Kakero]

there are tons of non english tactical rpg. listed them here would be useless as non of you have even heard them before. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[andrewas]

Originally posted by Neb: Played all of the X-coms and both of the Jagged Alliance games, loved them [img]smile.gif[/img] Hm, I've seen two X-com games that I haven't played, though X-Com: Enforcer and X-Com: Alliance. I think that Enforcer is a 1st/3rd person shooter. But does anyone know what X-com: Alliance is?

X-COM enforcer is a 3rd rate 3rd person shooter. It also strips out the management side of things, so its not even an XCOM game in the traditional sense of the word. Avoid.

x-COM Alliance looks like a 1st rate 1st person shooter with the management side intact and would be ace. There are plot hooks in XCOM Interceptor (The news stories about the missing Patterson being found half-way across the galaxy in a voyager rip off. Impressive for a ship w/o hyperdrive) which I think are meant to tie into this.

Alliance was canned a few years back just after XCOM Genesis (on which I have nothing) but there were signs a few months back that it might be on the way to being revived. Heres hoping.

[Miinxx]

I liked the original x-com game but it had one slight problem with it. The game AI did not respond to the application of "massive"force. Id use the heavy artillery and just mowed the place down, turning the tactical maps into a war zone. It was a complete walkover. I have yet to find a game where that doctrine doesnt work unfortunately.

[Neb]

Originally posted by Miinxx: I liked the original x-com game but it had one slight problem with it. The game AI did not respond to the application of "massive"force. Id use the heavy artillery and just mowed the place down, turning the tactical maps into a war zone. It was a complete walkover. I have yet to find a game where that doctrine doesnt work unfortunately.

The 3rd X-com game. X-com apocalypse, you will get disliked, fast, and get big bills if you blow the whole place up. And in addition to that you mustn't kill the civilians which are present in most missions.

[Rimjaw]

Try Fallout Tactics, its one of the best squad-based tactical rpgs I've played.

[--Twilight--]

Hello,
yep, X-Com 3 is a game that you really want to like. Its a game that should be great. Its a game with some good features.

Its a game that the was utterly shortchanged in its development. There are lots of little points, in almost every aspect, that bother people - little things that shouldn't be there. Graphics a bit small, all troops have the same portrait, an easy opportunity for expanded role playing for the troops totally missed, foes -really- too tied into a genre, weapons stock and copied from earlier ones, an attempt at a political system that stops once it begins, etc., etc., etc. You have a renowned product, a huge fan base, and every incentive to work on a sequel that will have everyone's attention, so they went ahead and did a CHEAP HACK JOB. Oh, well, its successor is in Beta....

I have F-Tactics, and it looks great, but it is most slow on my machine (I am its low-end requirement!), so I'll have to wait.

Still a new Jagged Alliance (in the works), a new and improved Twilight 2000, Fallout 3, or a really good alternative BG2 would be dandy....

- Twilight