What's the best backstabbing weapon in this game?

krunchyfrogg · 09-12-2005, 07:04 AM

I don't even need the exact weapon, just the correct proficiency. I'm trying to build a Thief or Fighter/Thief.

krunchyfrogg · 09-12-2005, 01:36 PM

Also, will you get a bonus damage message if you're flanking, just like you do when you successfully backstab?

Dragonshadow · 09-12-2005, 04:25 PM

I would imagine a dagger / short sword would be best.
I'm not sure about flanking

Azred · 09-12-2005, 07:38 PM

Dagger, because then your fighter/thief can specialize in daggers and use Spinesheath with deadly efficiency. True, the damage is only d4+1, but if you've used a potion of giant strength--and you should to maximize your backstab efficiency--then you can take advantage of Spinesheath's +5 to hit to make sure you connect.

krunchyfrogg · 09-12-2005, 07:46 PM

Nut a Ftr/thf should connect most of the time anyway. There must be a better long or short sword, or quarterstaff for backstabbing than a 1d4+1 weapon!

Aerich · 09-12-2005, 09:15 PM

Longsword might be best, for a couple reasons. First, there's probably more good longswords than shortswords or daggers. Second, a longsword has the best damage range (base 1-8) of any backstab-capable weapon.

There's a few good shortswords, but the really good ones show up relatively late in the game.

Daggers would be my other choice, mostly because of the poison daggers that are available - great for slaying casters. Daggers are also of special note if you have a thief/mage or F/M/T - the mage daggers (extra spells, magic resistance while equipped) are very good for arcane casters.

You will get a special message if your backstab/sneak attack works.

ister · 09-13-2005, 10:12 AM

I would go with long sword, but only if no melee character will be using them. There are plenty of decent short swords, just not quite as many as long swords.

And for a backstab weapon I'll always look at the damage bonus. The first +4 weapon you'll get (very late) is a short sword.

Black Swan Gauntlet · 09-13-2005, 04:03 PM

Yeah...start with short sword or dagger. Most of the really good shortswords are random items. If you plan on getting HoW (or have it already,) there are two *excellent* shortswords for thieves in that campaign (Blood Iron and the Short sword of Backstabbing.)

Oh yes, and one more thing...don't use a single-class Thief. Quite frankly, they suck.

[ 09-13-2005, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Black Swan Gauntlet ]

Dragonshadow · 09-13-2005, 04:51 PM

I wouldn't have thought you could back STAB with a staff, personally.

Dundee Slaytern · 09-14-2005, 06:46 AM

No, but the damage from the resulting back-bludgeon is devastating.

09-12-2005, 07:04 AM	#1
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	I don't even need the exact weapon, just the correct proficiency. I'm trying to build a Thief or Fighter/Thief. __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

09-12-2005, 04:25 PM	#3
Dragonshadow Quth-Maren Join Date: February 17, 2003 Location: Portsmouth Age: 34 Posts: 4,145	I would imagine a dagger / short sword would be best. I'm not sure about flanking __________________ aka Loc der Graf, Quillruke

09-12-2005, 07:38 PM	#4
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	Dagger, because then your fighter/thief can specialize in daggers and use Spinesheath with deadly efficiency. True, the damage is only d4+1, but if you've used a potion of giant strength--and you should to maximize your backstab efficiency--then you can take advantage of Spinesheath's +5 to hit to make sure you connect. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

09-12-2005, 07:46 PM	#5
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	Nut a Ftr/thf should connect most of the time anyway. There must be a better long or short sword, or quarterstaff for backstabbing than a 1d4+1 weapon! __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

09-12-2005, 09:15 PM	#6
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	Longsword might be best, for a couple reasons. First, there's probably more good longswords than shortswords or daggers. Second, a longsword has the best damage range (base 1-8) of any backstab-capable weapon. There's a few good shortswords, but the really good ones show up relatively late in the game. Daggers would be my other choice, mostly because of the poison daggers that are available - great for slaying casters. Daggers are also of special note if you have a thief/mage or F/M/T - the mage daggers (extra spells, magic resistance while equipped) are very good for arcane casters. You will get a special message if your backstab/sneak attack works. __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

09-12-2005, 01:36 PM	#2
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	Also, will you get a bonus damage message if you're flanking, just like you do when you successfully backstab?

09-13-2005, 10:12 AM	#7
ister Drow Warrior Join Date: January 12, 2005 Location: usa Age: 56 Posts: 291	I would go with long sword, but only if no melee character will be using them. There are plenty of decent short swords, just not quite as many as long swords. And for a backstab weapon I'll always look at the damage bonus. The first +4 weapon you'll get (very late) is a short sword. __________________ \" Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.\"<br />JFK

09-13-2005, 04:03 PM	#8
Black Swan Gauntlet The Magister Join Date: August 17, 2005 Location: The Great Forge Age: 35 Posts: 132	Yeah...start with short sword or dagger. Most of the really good shortswords are random items. If you plan on getting HoW (or have it already,) there are two excellent shortswords for thieves in that campaign (Blood Iron and the Short sword of Backstabbing.) Oh yes, and one more thing...don't use a single-class Thief. Quite frankly, they suck. [ 09-13-2005, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Black Swan Gauntlet ]

09-13-2005, 04:51 PM	#9
Dragonshadow Quth-Maren Join Date: February 17, 2003 Location: Portsmouth Age: 34 Posts: 4,145	I wouldn't have thought you could back STAB with a staff, personally. __________________ aka Loc der Graf, Quillruke

09-14-2005, 06:46 AM	#10
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	No, but the damage from the resulting back-bludgeon is devastating.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
What is your choice for best weapon in the game?	Mr Creosote	Miscellaneous Games (RPG or not)	23	03-08-2004 03:46 PM
Best Weapon in the game ?	Taski	Wizards & Warriors Forum	4	01-04-2003 07:22 AM
What is the best weapon in the game?	The Ozzman	Baldurs Gate II: Shadows of Amn & Throne of Bhaal	15	10-17-2002 09:52 PM
what is the best weapon in the game???	ace777	Wizards & Warriors Forum	6	03-05-2002 08:37 PM
Best Weapon in the game?	ShadowUK	Baldurs Gate II Archives	18	03-20-2001 05:02 PM