Charming and pickpocketing (potential spoilers)

Ben Lauritson · 01-17-2004, 11:59 AM

If an NPC is charmed, are they more easily pickpocketed? It's just I tried to pickpocket the bartender at the Umpani place when he was charmed, and I pickpocketed successfully quite a lot before he caught me. And yet my character didn't have the pickpocket skill, plus the game has the 1.2.4 patch or whichever the latest one is, since that's the one that came with the CD.

Ragash · 01-17-2004, 12:14 PM

It makes sense if you could pickpocket even without the skill.. I can't pickpocket with my rogue at all with a skill of 12

Only tried with Burz though..

Ben Lauritson · 01-17-2004, 12:42 PM

I did get caught eventually though so it made me wonder...

Scatter · 01-17-2004, 06:27 PM

On the newest patch, you roll the (number of attempt before a bust) upon meeting the NPC. This doesn't change, even if you reload the game, unless you come back with a different score in PP. EXCEPT when you charm anyone. Then a new number is rolled, and requires a lower score (inc nil). BUT regardless, if you take too much stuff, they'll have noticed by the next time you go see them.

I play on Patch 001b.

ferro287 · 01-18-2004, 04:56 AM

They can notice it afterwards? didn't know that. can you talk to them a second time right after leaving the first talk to check if they notice?

Pyrates · 01-18-2004, 07:30 AM

Uh? Really? I've never had that problem, I'm playing on the latest patch, but when I pickpocketed (which is different from shoplifting, btw) I could just go on like before... I never sold them their own stuff back, so that might be a problem, but they were never angry at me for PPing them...

Cheers
Philipp

Scatter · 01-18-2004, 03:15 PM

Then that must only ralate to Shoplift, which i've never done...only PP. I did a little checking on PP with the patch, but i went back to the old patch before long after, so i dunno exactly what it takes for them to notice.

Loudhy · 01-19-2004, 03:18 AM

My Bard ( Lvl 17 ) had a PP of 81 ( Skill + 2 Bracers ) . I have earned thousands of GP but I always thought that there must be items with the NPC's .
I wonder what item I can get with PP and how big the chance is to get it .
In my current party I build up a PP-specialist too because I found out that this is a good way for a party without alchemist to earn money

[img]graemlins/monster5.gif[/img]

Scatter · 01-19-2004, 04:16 AM

How do you only get gold when you PP??? i always get mostly items, with a little gold thrown in.

Loudhy · 01-19-2004, 05:41 AM

That's what I don't know, Scatter. I tried all NPC's in Arnika and Trynton but I only got gold. I do it 2 or 3 times each NPC . ( No Shoplifting up to now ).
Must I try it more often or is this the wrong area to get items ?

P.S.
In an earlier game I tried to PP the key from the Cell-Guy ( sorry, forgot the name ) in Rapax Castle but I always got Ale or Money or other things. But I never got the key.

[img]graemlins/monster5.gif[/img]

01-17-2004, 11:59 AM	#1
Ben Lauritson Dungeon Master Join Date: December 19, 2003 Location: UK Age: 37 Posts: 93	If an NPC is charmed, are they more easily pickpocketed? It's just I tried to pickpocket the bartender at the Umpani place when he was charmed, and I pickpocketed successfully quite a lot before he caught me. And yet my character didn't have the pickpocket skill, plus the game has the 1.2.4 patch or whichever the latest one is, since that's the one that came with the CD. __________________ The twilight will always be my domain,<br />For it is neutrality I shall retain.

01-17-2004, 12:42 PM	#3
Ben Lauritson Dungeon Master Join Date: December 19, 2003 Location: UK Age: 37 Posts: 93	I did get caught eventually though so it made me wonder... __________________ The twilight will always be my domain,<br />For it is neutrality I shall retain.

01-18-2004, 07:30 AM	#6
Pyrates Drow Warrior Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Muenster Age: 45 Posts: 287	Uh? Really? I've never had that problem, I'm playing on the latest patch, but when I pickpocketed (which is different from shoplifting, btw) I could just go on like before... I never sold them their own stuff back, so that might be a problem, but they were never angry at me for PPing them... Cheers Philipp __________________ \" ... and the Vogon will do things to you that you wish you\'d never been born, or, if you\'re a clearer minded thinker, that the Vogon had never been born.\"

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01-17-2004, 12:14 PM	#2
Ragash The Magister Join Date: April 29, 2003 Location: Dominus Age: 42 Posts: 100	It makes sense if you could pickpocket even without the skill.. I can't pickpocket with my rogue at all with a skill of 12 Only tried with Burz though..

01-17-2004, 06:27 PM	#4
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 65 Posts: 1,336	On the newest patch, you roll the (number of attempt before a bust) upon meeting the NPC. This doesn't change, even if you reload the game, unless you come back with a different score in PP. EXCEPT when you charm anyone. Then a new number is rolled, and requires a lower score (inc nil). BUT regardless, if you take too much stuff, they'll have noticed by the next time you go see them. I play on Patch 001b.

01-18-2004, 04:56 AM	#5
ferro287 Manshoon Join Date: October 27, 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 177	They can notice it afterwards? didn't know that. can you talk to them a second time right after leaving the first talk to check if they notice?

01-18-2004, 03:15 PM	#7
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 65 Posts: 1,336	Then that must only ralate to Shoplift, which i've never done...only PP. I did a little checking on PP with the patch, but i went back to the old patch before long after, so i dunno exactly what it takes for them to notice.

01-19-2004, 03:18 AM	#8
Loudhy Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: September 3, 2003 Location: Köln Germany Age: 68 Posts: 692	My Bard ( Lvl 17 ) had a PP of 81 ( Skill + 2 Bracers ) . I have earned thousands of GP but I always thought that there must be items with the NPC's . I wonder what item I can get with PP and how big the chance is to get it . In my current party I build up a PP-specialist too because I found out that this is a good way for a party without alchemist to earn money [img]graemlins/monster5.gif[/img]

01-19-2004, 04:16 AM	#9
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 65 Posts: 1,336	How do you only get gold when you PP??? i always get mostly items, with a little gold thrown in.

01-19-2004, 05:41 AM	#10
Loudhy Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: September 3, 2003 Location: Köln Germany Age: 68 Posts: 692	That's what I don't know, Scatter. I tried all NPC's in Arnika and Trynton but I only got gold. I do it 2 or 3 times each NPC . ( No Shoplifting up to now ). Must I try it more often or is this the wrong area to get items ? P.S. In an earlier game I tried to PP the key from the Cell-Guy ( sorry, forgot the name ) in Rapax Castle but I always got Ale or Money or other things. But I never got the key. [img]graemlins/monster5.gif[/img]

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