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Old 01-08-2003, 05:32 PM   #1
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Shinwiki never gaved them to me

I killed all Scabbans servant in toadem groud proof of tha was prologue:
" When last of Scabbans Evil hit the ground... "

I touched the toadem to gain extra hitpoint to all party members and picked that chest, that are behind toadem.

I returned to Shinwiki, but all he say was: " Welcome warmskin " and " Shinwiki is glad you returned... " but nothing about " the evil is dead! " or what he supposed to say...

I had problems with two toad ( the blocking toad in tunnel ), but I killed them single hit by Meteor. They didn't done alarm, and guard are not hostile to me. I wonder what I have missed? What triggers Shinwiki's mind that I really killed those evils?

Have you ever encounter this problem? I just want that spear...
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Old 01-08-2003, 06:05 PM   #2
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When you killed the swamp muck...did you get a speech about ....the distant sounds of rejoycing ..or something like that???

I don't remember there being any other trigger for Shinwiki.
One plus though...the spear is a very poor weapon.

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Old 01-08-2003, 06:35 PM   #3
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Yes there were that speech ...and birds are singing again!...
But still... no spear... I don't actually want that, I don't have any use for that spear, but it bothers me that it won't work...

I might try to go into village again ( take from saved game )
and see does it happen agaim... But now I got no time for that...
Must do homeworks [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-09-2003, 03:16 AM   #4
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I've noticed this happening with some of my games too. I've tried many times waiting for Shinwiki to do his spiel as well as wait for the birds to sing after ridding the evils, but still no spear..I think it one of those few rare bugs..
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Old 01-09-2003, 04:39 AM   #5
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Did you have enough room in your backpack? I've never had any problems getting the spear.
If you had no room in your backpack the spear may have been deposited on the ground.
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Old 01-09-2003, 05:01 AM   #6
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That's weird. It has never happened to me. I think the_young_one will be right: it's a gremlin in the game. Luckily, a harmless one.
a) The Magic Spear cannot save your skin as we all know [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]
b) Losing the Shinwiki's quest has no consequences later in the game.
c) As far as the second Warrior's Guild quest is considered, the quest is completed by jumping down into the village - you need not speak with Shinwiki or with anybody else at all (except Ekbu, of course), you can climb the the ladder out of the village and go for the quest reward immediately. Therefore, if you were on the quest then the quest is completed.
d) Shinwiki's reward cannot improve you remarkably.
Therefore, you can ignore the gremlin and continue the game without losing anything.

If we are speaking about gremlins in W&W, there are more nasty gremlins in the game:
1. The elevator to Flokis Ra in the Valeia Crypt stops working behind floors. This happened to me several times. This can happen when using the elevator both to Flokis Ra and to the room above Flokis Ra. The only way out is restarting the game in most cases. Therefore, always save game before using the elevator.
2. The Monkey with an Object is not spawn in the Serpent Temple. This happened to me once. I daresay I've played the game so many times that I know where to search for the monkey. Because I had no saves before entering the Serpent Temple, the game was lost. Since then, I am always making a special save before entering Serpent Temple for the first time.
3. The elevator in the kitchen of the Serpent Temple refuses to work. More exactly, the elevator allows you to enter the area behind the kitchen but when you are returning the elevator does not work. This happened to me once and it was also reported on the forum. Either you can teleport away, i.e., you have portal somewhere in the temple, or you have to reload. Therefore, if you cannot teleport then save the game before entering the area behind the kitchen.
4. Missing Glowstone in Collasium. This never happened to me but it was reported on the forum several times. The game is lost because you cannot reach the third tablet. That's why I am always making a special save before entering Collasium for the first time.
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Old 01-09-2003, 07:01 AM   #7
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Excellent post as usual Radek. Didn´t packrat post the trigger for the kitchen elevator bug? Something about punching the button twice? Or was it three times? Can´t remember. I was wondering if you could do me a favour Radek. Could you perhaps put together a post of the known bugs in the game as well as solutions, if they exist. A post to put in the tech thread that is. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-09-2003, 07:36 AM   #8
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man, there are SO MANY tech-related problems for W&W, better watch out for mine too...........
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Old 01-09-2003, 08:09 AM   #9
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To kev:

The problem is that Shinwiki never say anything about that I compleated that mission. I have empty slots awailable, but cannot have S. to ignore what I've done for Toads!

To Radek:

Magnificent post, once again!
As Bungleau allways say, Save your game!
Well don't remember his actual words, but the idea is to save the game...

I had that problem in Collasium, didn't find the crystal, but luckily I had save before entering in. ( Thank's to B and Wyvern, save, save, save... )

And WillowIX, I remember too it was Packrat, If you have too much time you can seek trought old post, it's not so far away [img]smile.gif[/img]

Oh! Allmost forgot! I'm not going to stay and cry after that Spear, I'm going into Crypt! Hih! My seacond game ( actually 3rd, but I never finished one )
and still I'm so excited!

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Old 01-09-2003, 09:19 AM   #10
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I've seen a post on this same subject on another site, so there is an issue here.
As previously stated, you are not missing out greatly not getting the spear.
None of my characters actually had spear proficiency, but I got the spear and sold it.

Incidentally once you've finished W&W,
Give Might and Magic IX a try, I just got it last night and so far it's a lot of fun (with the patch installed).
It's quite reminiscent of W&W.
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