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Old 11-11-2004, 02:58 PM   #1
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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Michael Moore plans a follow-up to "Fahrenheit 9/11," his hit documentary that assails President Bush over the handling of the September 11 attacks and the war on terrorism, according to a Hollywood trade paper.

Moore told Daily Variety that he and Harvey Weinstein, the Miramax boss who produced the film, hope to have "Fahrenheit 9/11 1/2" ready in two to three years.

"Fifty-one percent of the American people lacked information (in this election) and we want to educate and enlighten them," Moore was quoted in Thursday's edition of Variety. "They weren't told the truth. We're communicators and it's up to us to start doing it now."

A spokesman for Fellowship Adventure Group, formed by Weinstein and brother Bob to help distribute "Fahrenheit 9/11," did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

"Fahrenheit 9/11," which won top honors at May's Cannes Film Festival, became the first documentary to top $100 million at the domestic box office. Moore, who won the documentary Academy Award for "Bowling for Columbine," is pushing "Fahrenheit 9/11" in the best-picture category for the upcoming Oscars.

The issues for the follow-up film will remain the same, Iraq and terrorism, Moore said.

"The official mourning period is over today and there is a silver lining: George W. Bush is prohibited by law from running again," Moore said.
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Old 11-11-2004, 03:14 PM   #2
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Old 11-11-2004, 03:30 PM   #3
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"The official mourning period is over today and there is a silver lining: George W. Bush is prohibited by law from running again," Moore said.
Did Franklin D. Roosevelt not get voted in 4 times? if so what is there to stop GWbush from getting in 4 times? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]
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Old 11-11-2004, 03:32 PM   #4
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Old 11-12-2004, 11:20 AM   #5
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"Fifty-one percent of the American people lacked information (in this election) and we want to educate and enlighten them," Moore was quoted in Thursday's edition of Variety. "They weren't told the truth. We're communicators and it's up to us to start doing it now."
Although I should be accustomed to it, the absolute arrogance and ignorance of Michael Moore never ceases to amaze me. Since 51% of Americans didn't agree with HIS choice for President, then we are un-informed and weren't told the truth. Well at least he is still giving us credit for being able to think for ourselves (at least so far) if we DID have what he considers the "truth".

I saw a post on another forum that really hits the nail on the head as far as the liberal reaction to the election is concerned....


The wrath of the losers is more than pique over a hotly contested election, even one contested in wartime. Bush haters feel affronted by America's failure to defer to their wisdom. Pundits, novelists, historians, movie stars, eminentoes, and glitterati of every kind told us that Bush was dumb, crooked, bigoted, bloodthirsty, incompetent, and unpopular the world over, yet 51 percent of the electorate ignored them. The election was worse than a defeat; it was a diss. All was lost, including honor.


I think this paragraph - and especially the 2nd sentence - really gets to the very heart of the flood of op-ed commentaries we are seeing about Red America being ignorant, backwoods bigots that are incapable figuring out anything on their own. It reflects the arrogance and elitist attitude that Blue America views Red America with - and it also shows just how completely out of touch they are with their fellow countrymen. Yet there is no suggestion that Blue America needs to re-evaluate their values and beliefs. No, no....it is Red America that needs to be enlightened and educated so that we can overcome our inherent ignorance.

Michael Moore and the rest of his elitist Blue Buddies just don't get it. Still, it will be interesting to see how many more lies and half-truths Moore can create for this next version of his film.
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Old 11-12-2004, 11:30 AM   #6
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Or, maybe *this* sentence really gets to the very heart of it. You keep talking as if we don't admit our arrogance -- WE DO. We think you made a mistake -- we think you got it wrong. We think time will prove us right. We think that a simple majority CAN and sometimes DOES make a mistake, an error in judgment. Get over it. I spent much of my school life disagreeing with 90% or more of my classmates -- turned out that's what made me a better student than them.

Now, I'm not saying it isn't time for liberals themselves to get over it. The ranting was bound to happen for some time, and will subside. But, we can expect to see it surface again, because we DISAGREE. We're allowed to do that, and we are allowed to voice it. That's what's great about this country.
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Old 11-12-2004, 12:43 PM   #7
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Or, maybe *this* sentence really gets to the very heart of it. You keep talking as if we don't admit our arrogance -- WE DO. We think you made a mistake -- we think you got it wrong. We think time will prove us right. We think that a simple majority CAN and sometimes DOES make a mistake, an error in judgment. Get over it. I spent much of my school life disagreeing with 90% or more of my classmates -- turned out that's what made me a better student than them.

Now, I'm not saying it isn't time for liberals themselves to get over it. The ranting was bound to happen for some time, and will subside. But, we can expect to see it surface again, because we DISAGREE. We're allowed to do that, and we are allowed to voice it. That's what's great about this country.
Sorry, T.L., but I've yet to see ANY admission of arrogance from Democratic/liberal side (with your previous post being the one possible exception). I did see one New Yorker quoted in the Times article of the now-locked thread admit that his view may "sound elitist", but he certianly made no apology for it. His attitude was "I know it sounds elitist, but that's OK, because we really ARE smarter, more educated, more street savvy than Red America and they should listen to us and learn from our wisdom.".

What I HAVE seen is an excessive amount of vitriolic insults heaped on Red America for NOT agreeing with Blue America. It's funny that the Dems complained so vigorously during the campaign about all the mud-slinging, smearing, insults and character assassination being done by the Repubs and their Swift Boat Cronies - yet they have done nothing BUT insult, name-call and smear the entirety of Red America for being so stupid as to disagree with them.

I've shrugged most of the insults off and I actually find the preponderance of them to be somewhat humorous...but the sheer volume of insults being heaped on Red America does get under my skin from time to time.

The Dems lost the election fair and square - whether they like it or not. So now is the time for THEM to accept the loss and make their OWN efforts to "reach out across the aisle" and work WITH the Administration for the good of ALL America. That doesn't mean they should rubber stamp Bush's policies - but they should definitely heed their own cries for putting thier political differences aside and working for what is best for the American public that put them in office to begin with.


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Old 11-12-2004, 01:57 PM   #8
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Or, maybe *this* sentence really gets to the very heart of it. You keep talking as if we don't admit our arrogance -- WE DO.
So are you saying you(liberals) are Wine sipping pinky point'n Metropolitain Pinheads vs Beer swill'n belch'n stager'n red necks?
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Old 11-12-2004, 04:51 PM   #9
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No, I'm just saying I think we were right. And willing to say it. Two paths diverged in the woods. As a country, we took one of those paths. I think it was wrong, and we will be all the worse. That's all. The caricatures are not the issue. Besides, some of us liberals like to wear flannel, spend days at a time in the woods, and drink lots of strong whiskey.
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No, I'm just saying I think we were right. And willing to say it. Two paths diverged in the woods. As a country, we took one of those paths. I think it was wrong, and we will be all the worse. That's all. The caricatures are not the issue. Besides, some of us liberals like to wear flannel, spend days at a time in the woods, and drink lots of strong whiskey.
Ok fair'nuf, but since when did saying you thought you were right equate to being arrogant? I could see proud, confident, but unless I've missed something in webster's inorder to be Arrogant one must be Haughty(proud WHILE distaining others) AND Proud.
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