Being Hostile

God Gundam · 08-05-2003, 03:20 PM

Is it possible to finish the game by being purely evil? Can it be done by attacking everyone (the people in Arnika, Trynton, Mt.Gigas, Martin's Bluff etc.)? To make it short: NO ALLIANCES (Everything is in RED on the radar)

Except for characters we interact that influence the game or merchants or even NPCs.

Can this be done?

Rezdude03 · 08-05-2003, 04:43 PM

i suppose, but you will miss out on many items, it will be difficult getting the astral dominae (actually, i dont know if you can get it at all), you will not get into the mook headquarters as easly, you will have to go through the rest of the game (or at least acendtion peak) with your party totally insane after getting the destinae dominus (and you cant ditch it somewhere.) but i do still think it is posible.

SecretMaster · 08-05-2003, 10:58 PM

Yeah, you get the Astral Dominae even if you kill Barlone before getting the D.Savant mad at you. IT IS possible, but you'll have a hell of a time doing it.

TINKER_TINKERMAN · 08-06-2003, 03:44 AM

I can be done but timing is important.
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You could kill the HLL right off, I think only Myles and Tramain would become hostile. You can kill Don as soon as you meet him and he will drop the AD, although just to be safe i'd wait till you get the fake AD from DS. Once you have the idol and meet the Shamen you could kill the trinnie. After you finish the Drazic and Rodan thing, You could kill all the T'rang, Umpani, and Mook. Of course this means that you would also have to kill most of the NPC's because of there alliances. ie. kill Umpani & Saxx becomes hostile, or kill the T'rang and Tantris becomes hostile. I think the shop keepers are seperate so you could still be able to buy & sell things.

SecretMaster · 08-06-2003, 05:15 AM

Well, I know you won't be able to kill Bela. And Crock will be there as a storekeeper for awhile.

08-06-2003, 08:27 AM

One of my current parties was all set for ascension peak, but i wasnt ready to end their career. So, we went for a walk around to every city and killed everyone and everything we met. The only exceptions are ferro (for resupplying) and bela (cuz i forgot).

Of course, this was all after completing everything else. I suppose you could work out the earliest time to wipe out each race. For example, I've killed the don before getting the fake astral dominae, so that's not a problem. And I typically wipe out the Trynnie (including the shaman and chief) after i get the helm (although the shaman remains green after the trynnie go hostile, so you could concievably do them even sooner).

God Gundam · 08-06-2003, 04:28 PM

So you're telling me the best way to go hostile is after you get their stuff and EXPs? Stab them all in the back after you earned their trust eh, that's the best idea I've heard. What could be more despicable.. hehehe.

Hahahaha all of them on Dominus should fear me than the Savant hahaha...

Squigle D'Muerte · 08-08-2003, 04:33 PM

Sounds like you should be playing Fallout. Game is very playable as either a good or evil character (or as a jerk who does quests then kills everyone). Best part is that when you wipe out a town in Fallout it is a town not just a couple NPCs and a few guards. Kids, pets, cows even defile the dead for fun and profit. Of course they WILL send bounty hunters after you for the rest of the game...

It seems that the easiest way to kill everyone in Wiz8 is just to not remove the Dark Savant's bomb.

FizzyOtter · 08-08-2003, 04:37 PM

Being evil and a backstabber. Wow that reminds me of someone who was doing the 'Clensing Campain' in Morrowind. Trying to kill off EVERYONE in the game.

Wereboar · 08-13-2003, 01:29 PM

AFAIK you can kill everybody killable, and still win the game. With two minor exceptions:

1. Don't kill your ally in the final fight, or you might not get the ending.

2. Don't kill Al-Adryian before talking to him, unless you know how to enter Ascension Peak without becoming a templar.

08-05-2003, 03:20 PM	#1
God Gundam Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 29, 2002 Location: Manila Age: 44 Posts: 40	Is it possible to finish the game by being purely evil? Can it be done by attacking everyone (the people in Arnika, Trynton, Mt.Gigas, Martin's Bluff etc.)? To make it short: NO ALLIANCES (Everything is in RED on the radar) Except for characters we interact that influence the game or merchants or even NPCs. Can this be done? __________________ \"Think outside the box\"

08-05-2003, 04:43 PM	#2
Rezdude03 Manshoon Join Date: July 9, 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 177	i suppose, but you will miss out on many items, it will be difficult getting the astral dominae (actually, i dont know if you can get it at all), you will not get into the mook headquarters as easly, you will have to go through the rest of the game (or at least acendtion peak) with your party totally insane after getting the destinae dominus (and you cant ditch it somewhere.) but i do still think it is posible. __________________ \"We three, though born on different days, swear an oath of brotherhood\"<br />\"And vow to die the same year, same month and the very same day\"<br />\"Come, my Brothers\' destiny awaits!\"<br />-Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Liu Bei/ Dynasty Warriors 4

08-06-2003, 03:44 AM	#4
TINKER_TINKERMAN Dungeon Master Join Date: July 24, 2003 Location: Riyadh Age: 57 Posts: 85	I can be done but timing is important. Big Time Spoiler . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You could kill the HLL right off, I think only Myles and Tramain would become hostile. You can kill Don as soon as you meet him and he will drop the AD, although just to be safe i'd wait till you get the fake AD from DS. Once you have the idol and meet the Shamen you could kill the trinnie. After you finish the Drazic and Rodan thing, You could kill all the T'rang, Umpani, and Mook. Of course this means that you would also have to kill most of the NPC's because of there alliances. ie. kill Umpani & Saxx becomes hostile, or kill the T'rang and Tantris becomes hostile. I think the shop keepers are seperate so you could still be able to buy & sell things. __________________ If it ain\'t broke, don\'t fix it.

08-08-2003, 04:33 PM	#8
Squigle D'Muerte Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 30, 2003 Location: California Age: 64 Posts: 6	Sounds like you should be playing Fallout. Game is very playable as either a good or evil character (or as a jerk who does quests then kills everyone). Best part is that when you wipe out a town in Fallout it is a town not just a couple NPCs and a few guards. Kids, pets, cows even defile the dead for fun and profit. Of course they WILL send bounty hunters after you for the rest of the game... It seems that the easiest way to kill everyone in Wiz8 is just to not remove the Dark Savant's bomb. __________________ Squigle D\'Muerte<br />The Squiggle of Death<br />(Mark was taken)

08-08-2003, 04:37 PM	#9
FizzyOtter Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 23, 2003 Location: Michigan Age: 42 Posts: 4	Being evil and a backstabber. Wow that reminds me of someone who was doing the 'Clensing Campain' in Morrowind. Trying to kill off EVERYONE in the game. __________________ In the begining, there was nothing....that exploded.

08-05-2003, 10:58 PM	#3
SecretMaster Apophis Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: New York Age: 37 Posts: 4,666	Yeah, you get the Astral Dominae even if you kill Barlone before getting the D.Savant mad at you. IT IS possible, but you'll have a hell of a time doing it.

08-06-2003, 05:15 AM	#5
SecretMaster Apophis Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: New York Age: 37 Posts: 4,666	Well, I know you won't be able to kill Bela. And Crock will be there as a storekeeper for awhile.

08-06-2003, 08:27 AM	#6
sultan Guest Posts: n/a	One of my current parties was all set for ascension peak, but i wasnt ready to end their career. So, we went for a walk around to every city and killed everyone and everything we met. The only exceptions are ferro (for resupplying) and bela (cuz i forgot). Of course, this was all after completing everything else. I suppose you could work out the earliest time to wipe out each race. For example, I've killed the don before getting the fake astral dominae, so that's not a problem. And I typically wipe out the Trynnie (including the shaman and chief) after i get the helm (although the shaman remains green after the trynnie go hostile, so you could concievably do them even sooner).

08-06-2003, 04:28 PM	#7
God Gundam Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 29, 2002 Location: Manila Age: 44 Posts: 40	So you're telling me the best way to go hostile is after you get their stuff and EXPs? Stab them all in the back after you earned their trust eh, that's the best idea I've heard. What could be more despicable.. hehehe. Hahahaha all of them on Dominus should fear me than the Savant hahaha...

08-13-2003, 01:29 PM	#10
Wereboar Baaz Draconian Join Date: June 6, 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 795	AFAIK you can kill everybody killable, and still win the game. With two minor exceptions: 1. Don't kill your ally in the final fight, or you might not get the ending. 2. Don't kill Al-Adryian before talking to him, unless you know how to enter Ascension Peak without becoming a templar.

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