Election Question - Page 11

Beaumanoir · 11-07-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood

Uhh, should have known better...

You love it.

You just don't know it yet.

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood · 11-07-2008, 12:44 PM

leave it to "good manure" to come up with that!

Papa Schlumpf · 11-07-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood

leave it to "good manure" to come up with that!

'beau' means beautiful and 'manoir' is a manor, but hey, fantastic comeback.

Firestormalpha · 11-07-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Schlumpf

'beau' means beautiful and 'manoir' is a manor, but hey, fantastic comeback.

Well, you gotta give him points for creativity.

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood · 11-07-2008, 01:09 PM

mon francais et pas tres bien

Timber Loftis · 11-09-2008, 01:55 PM

I'm so glad I didn't post in this thread days ago, I think I'd have made enemies far and wide.

When it comes down to it, the things Republicans are banking on to win elections these days boil down to 3 things: abortion, god, and fear of the "other."

They need to realize it's just not going to win it for them anymore. Most people realize that the abortion issue is one that courts, not politicians, ultimately determine, and a President has little influence over that. God doesn't win that much for them anymore either, because most people realize that you can be liberal and believe in God.

The most disconcerting thing this election though was the strong campaign based on fear of the "other." Arguments that Obama is a muslim, a terrorist, a terrorist sympathizer, and communist,not a citizen, etc. were all a lot of wasted hot air in the end. And they all boiled down to veiled racism as far as I can tell. I refuted what I could, including my campaign to link Snopes articles to all recipients of these stupid bigoted email chains I would receive -- basically calling out these people before all the people on their "friends" lists as being stupid.

My advice to Republicans, and I think all Republicans would like to see them take it, is start being the class for fiscal restraint and small government again. And don't just say it, mean it. Do it. Quit saying you will and then failing.

All that said, things are now done. Let's sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHWByjoQrR8

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood · 11-09-2008, 05:32 PM

TL, you hoodl'm!
Where have you been?

Edit: oh, nice video btw.

Edit: that was supposed to be "TL" of course,

Stratos · 11-09-2008, 08:33 PM

Well, at least fiscal restrain and small government is a functional platform.

Bungleau · 11-09-2008, 09:31 PM

I think you're right, TL. And I think the other side is guilty of the same thing - desire for "change" and fear of "more of the same".

I'd love to see a platform (and to follow on, execution of same) of fiscal restraint and smaller government. Personal responsibility. Cause and effect. Action and reaction. What novel concepts... been working in nature for a long, long time. No, nature's not always fair. Never said it was, never claimed it ought to be.

This ain't socialism, ain't totalitarianism, and ain't a dictatorship. Or at least it ain't supposed to be. Capitalism... perhaps capitalism with a conscience.

Timber Loftis · 11-10-2008, 12:51 AM

Please note that in the primaries I voted for Ron Paul, and I still don't see where the "capitalism" line is drawn. McCain wanted a 36% top income tax rate and B.O. promised a 39% top income tax rate (rollback to Clinton numbers). I don't see where between 36% and 39% you leave capitalism and enter communism.

Truth is, this country (the U.S.) has been socialist since the 1930's, yet we eschew the title/moniker, though it fits so well.

11-07-2008, 12:44 PM	#102
Variol (Farseer) Elmwood Jack Burton Join Date: May 16, 2003 Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada Age: 58 Posts: 5,634	Re: Election Question leave it to "good manure" to come up with that! __________________ A MAN WHO WANTS FOR NOTHING HAS INFINITE WEALTH. (me)

11-07-2008, 01:09 PM	#105
Variol (Farseer) Elmwood Jack Burton Join Date: May 16, 2003 Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada Age: 58 Posts: 5,634	Re: Election Question mon francais et pas tres bien __________________ A MAN WHO WANTS FOR NOTHING HAS INFINITE WEALTH. (me)

11-09-2008, 01:55 PM	#106
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Re: Election Question I'm so glad I didn't post in this thread days ago, I think I'd have made enemies far and wide. When it comes down to it, the things Republicans are banking on to win elections these days boil down to 3 things: abortion, god, and fear of the "other." They need to realize it's just not going to win it for them anymore. Most people realize that the abortion issue is one that courts, not politicians, ultimately determine, and a President has little influence over that. God doesn't win that much for them anymore either, because most people realize that you can be liberal and believe in God. The most disconcerting thing this election though was the strong campaign based on fear of the "other." Arguments that Obama is a muslim, a terrorist, a terrorist sympathizer, and communist,not a citizen, etc. were all a lot of wasted hot air in the end. And they all boiled down to veiled racism as far as I can tell. I refuted what I could, including my campaign to link Snopes articles to all recipients of these stupid bigoted email chains I would receive -- basically calling out these people before all the people on their "friends" lists as being stupid. My advice to Republicans, and I think all Republicans would like to see them take it, is start being the class for fiscal restraint and small government again. And don't just say it, mean it. Do it. Quit saying you will and then failing. All that said, things are now done. Let's sing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHWByjoQrR8 __________________ Last edited by Timber Loftis; 11-10-2008 at 12:34 AM.

11-09-2008, 05:32 PM	#107
Variol (Farseer) Elmwood Jack Burton Join Date: May 16, 2003 Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada Age: 58 Posts: 5,634	Re: Election Question TL, you hoodl'm! Where have you been? Edit: oh, nice video btw. Edit: that was supposed to be "TL" of course, __________________ A MAN WHO WANTS FOR NOTHING HAS INFINITE WEALTH. (me) Last edited by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood; 11-10-2008 at 05:48 AM.

11-09-2008, 08:33 PM	#108
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 3,888	Re: Election Question Well, at least fiscal restrain and small government is a functional platform. __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

11-09-2008, 09:31 PM	#109
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Re: Election Question I think you're right, TL. And I think the other side is guilty of the same thing - desire for "change" and fear of "more of the same". I'd love to see a platform (and to follow on, execution of same) of fiscal restraint and smaller government. Personal responsibility. Cause and effect. Action and reaction. What novel concepts... been working in nature for a long, long time. No, nature's not always fair. Never said it was, never claimed it ought to be. This ain't socialism, ain't totalitarianism, and ain't a dictatorship. Or at least it ain't supposed to be. Capitalism... perhaps capitalism with a conscience. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

11-10-2008, 12:51 AM	#110
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Re: Election Question Please note that in the primaries I voted for Ron Paul, and I still don't see where the "capitalism" line is drawn. McCain wanted a 36% top income tax rate and B.O. promised a 39% top income tax rate (rollback to Clinton numbers). I don't see where between 36% and 39% you leave capitalism and enter communism. Truth is, this country (the U.S.) has been socialist since the 1930's, yet we eschew the title/moniker, though it fits so well. __________________

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