Bard spell progression?

[robertthebard]

All things considered, this may seem like a stupid question, but I can't find the charts, and have no idea at what lvl bards quit getting spells. Any one have any idea?

[Legolas]

They're in the back of the manual, page 158 in my case. They keep getting spells until level 20 like everyone, they know level 6 spells at level 16 and can actually use them a level later.
Just why the bard class can pick spells but not cast them at several points during their development, I'll never know.

[ZFR]

Spells Castable per Day by Level:
Bard level 0-lvl 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1st Level 2
2nd Level 3 0
3rd Level 3 1
4th Level 3 2 0
5th Level 3 3 1
6th Level 3 3 2
7th Level 3 3 2 0
8th Level 3 3 3 1
9th Level 3 3 3 2
10th Level 3 3 3 3 0
11th Level 3 3 3 3 1
12th Level 3 3 3 3 2
13th Level 3 3 3 3 2 0
14th Level 4 3 3 3 3 1
15th Level 4 4 3 3 3 2
16th Level 4 4 4 3 3 2 0
17th Level 4 4 4 4 3 3 1
18th Level 4 4 4 4 4 3 2
19th Level 4 4 4 4 4 4 3
20th Level 4 4 4 4 4 4 4


Spells Known by Level:
Bard level 0-lvl 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
1st Level 4
2nd Level 4 2
3rd Level 4 3
4th Level 4 4 2
5th Level 4 4 3
6th Level 4 4 3
7th Level 4 4 4 2
8th Level 4 4 4 3
9th Level 4 4 4 3
10th Level 4 4 4 4 2
11th Level 4 4 4 4 3
12th Level 4 4 4 4 3
13th Level 4 4 4 4 4 2
14th Level 4 4 4 4 4 3
15th Level 4 4 4 4 4 3
16th Level 4 5 4 4 4 4 2
17th Level 4 5 5 4 4 4 3
18th Level 4 5 5 5 4 4 3
19th Level 4 5 5 5 5 4 4
20th Level 4 5 5 5 5 5 4

[robertthebard]

Originally posted by Legolas: They're in the back of the manual, page 158 in my case. They keep getting spells until level 20 like everyone, they know level 6 spells at level 16 and can actually use them a level later. Just why the bard class can pick spells but not cast them at several points during their development, I'll never know.

I have goofed with that, and it's a charisma thing. If the char's charisma is higher than the spell lvl, they can cast the spells. I think it's some kind of bug, as if you can learn the spell, you should be able to cast it, but that is not the case with bards. They get the short end of the stick for epic spells as well, can't cast lvl 9 spells. Thanks for the charts, but I had hoped that they got spells later than lvl 20. Guess not. Now I know why I'd never bothered with epic bards before. While the bard song does get to be quite good, epic spells would be nice...