Humanizing Hitler: A movie

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Evil exists per se. But, the view of it is culture-driven. It's not that it doesn't exist -- but that it's a moving target.

I don't know that I've ever seen a better explanation. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by The Hierophant: For you, personally, what is wrong with genocide?

For me it is the fact that those killed in an act of genocide are killed wholesale based on nothing more than their race or culture.

I think we all know that killing should be done on a case by case basis.

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: For me it is the fact that those killed in an act of genocide are killed wholesale based on nothing more than their race or culture. I think we all know that killing should be done on a case by case basis.

I agree, on both points. Genocide for me is an inexcusable waste of potential 'talent', in many fields.

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: quote: Originally posted by The Hierophant: For you, personally, what is wrong with genocide?

For me it is the fact that those killed in an act of genocide are killed wholesale based on nothing more than their race or culture.

I think we all know that killing should be done on a case by case basis. [/QUOTE]And I don't think that I've ever seen a better explanation. All that I would add is something that I think your post presumes: that what really is at issue is that genocide is illogical.

[Stratos]

Just out of curiosity, when is killing 'rigtheous' and 'justified'? Who decides that, and who gives that person the authority to judge?

Curious mind wants to know.

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by Stratos: Who decides that, and who gives that person the authority to judge?

On both counts, I would say 'the person'.

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by Stratos: Just out of curiosity, when is killing 'rigtheous' and 'justified'? Who decides that, and who gives that person the authority to judge?

As Ronn said, it's done case by case. And I will be happy to do the deciding. PM me with any potential righteous killings you may be thinking about doing, and I'll let you know if you're right.

[Stratos]

The point I wanted to get to, is that most people who kill others feel that their actions are justified, regardless of what we think about them.

If you think killing can be justified and righteous, then you're not being very convincing raging against other killers, unless you can provide proof of some sort of Moral Absolute^TM to support your standpoint. There might be some very 'clear' cases where we think that killing is justified, but there's a helluva lot of not-so-clear cases as well.

[Ronn_Bman]

It is the clear cases we are talking about here.

For the others? Well, we have to charge extra.

On the serious side, I don't think any reasonable person alive today would even attempt to begin to justify the kind of wholesale death of complete innocents that Hitler dedicated himself to committing.

You will find people that compare Bush to Hitler, but the trick is finding an even marginally credible person to do so with any realism.

[ 09-21-2004, 07:41 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

[Dadams1]

I don't think any reasonable person alive today would even attempt to begin to justify the kind of wholesale death of complete innocents that Hitler dedicated himself to committing.

The fact that Hitler believed he was doing the right thing is justification enough.