Escaped Convicts; Wyrmn

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 07-06-2002, 04:28 PM

bah, Im exceeding annoyed over this... I play as a NG. that means I dont regonise the LAWS of sioity right? now, after listening to this guys tale, I sympethised, and agreed to let him go... and what happens?! I lose my title of Benifactor, and shift 5pts towards evil! why?! as an NG I was acting according to my allingment. I think in his postion, I would have made my char do the same. its just not *right*. According to this guy, the convict, he just wants peace, and to live out the rest of his life as a ranger... whats wrong with that?! Sarevok got a second chance, why shouldnt this guy?! anyway, Im really annoyed at that. what do the rest of you think? should I have killed him? bearing in mind, that I, myself, play as an Elven ranger, NG.

DiabloRex · 07-06-2002, 06:18 PM

argh your right

I am playing the same alignment as you and took the same route, didnt notice that I was going more evil though (and thus losing my title as well)

I dont understand this either, after listening to his tale you should IMO be more evil (and lawful) if you go ahead and kill him. Not be punished on the good/evil scale by letting him go

Kakero · 07-06-2002, 08:26 PM

The person himself is evil, if you let him go, it's like he can do more evil on another day.

Recluse · 07-06-2002, 10:35 PM

Did you ever think he played upon your characters kind heart and persuaded you to let him go?? Evil chars'll do that to ya =) lol

Greadius · 07-06-2002, 11:29 PM

Fortunately I'm neutral-confused so that didn't affect me much, but I had a problem with that alignment situation as well.
The game makes the assumption you are certain they are evil, which, unless you can detect evil (ahem), you can't do. Especially if you're an honorable character you can't kill someone after they surrender... it would have been better to try and arrest him, he fights back, THEN kill him.

They evil might be because you agree to take his ear and decieve old Kedrack with it. I suppose it shows that there are still limitations on CRPGs (although there are only a few intstances I've noticed).

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 07-07-2002, 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by Recluse:
Did you ever think he played upon your characters kind heart and persuaded you to let him go?? Evil chars'll do that to ya =) lol

Bah, if thats the case, then Sarevok on BGTOB, should have changed your allignment then... everyone deserves a second chance... except maybe Bhaal.. but thats besides the point.. put yourself in HIS postion, wrymns, I mean... would *you* have done differently?

AndyG · 07-08-2002, 02:37 PM

It's fairly easy to get points back for good. The easiest way is to refuse a reward after a quest.

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 07-08-2002, 02:58 PM

*grins* How do you think I got Lady Aribeth to flatter me in chapter one?

Kakero · 07-08-2002, 09:50 PM

joining the dark side err...I mean evil is easy too, just threaten people left and right.

07-06-2002, 04:28 PM	#1
Calaethis Dragonsbane Legion Symbol Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Somewhere in between Age: 39 Posts: 7,029	bah, Im exceeding annoyed over this... I play as a NG. that means I dont regonise the LAWS of sioity right? now, after listening to this guys tale, I sympethised, and agreed to let him go... and what happens?! I lose my title of Benifactor, and shift 5pts towards evil! why?! as an NG I was acting according to my allingment. I think in his postion, I would have made my char do the same. its just not right. According to this guy, the convict, he just wants peace, and to live out the rest of his life as a ranger... whats wrong with that?! Sarevok got a second chance, why shouldnt this guy?! anyway, Im really annoyed at that. what do the rest of you think? should I have killed him? bearing in mind, that I, myself, play as an Elven ranger, NG. __________________ Skydracgrrl: Cruelty, thy name is Cal! --- There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, none so deaf as those who refuse to hear, and none so smelly as those who refuse to bathe.

07-06-2002, 06:18 PM	#2
DiabloRex Elminster Join Date: July 2, 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 460	argh your right I am playing the same alignment as you and took the same route, didnt notice that I was going more evil though (and thus losing my title as well) I dont understand this either, after listening to his tale you should IMO be more evil (and lawful) if you go ahead and kill him. Not be punished on the good/evil scale by letting him go __________________ [url]\"http://everspoon.mine.nu\" target=\"_blank\">Everspoon Temple</a>

07-08-2002, 02:58 PM	#8
Calaethis Dragonsbane Legion Symbol Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Somewhere in between Age: 39 Posts: 7,029	grins How do you think I got Lady Aribeth to flatter me in chapter one? __________________ Skydracgrrl: Cruelty, thy name is Cal! --- There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, none so deaf as those who refuse to hear, and none so smelly as those who refuse to bathe.

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07-06-2002, 08:26 PM	#3
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	The person himself is evil, if you let him go, it's like he can do more evil on another day.

07-06-2002, 10:35 PM	#4
Recluse Dungeon Master Join Date: June 1, 2002 Location: here Age: 39 Posts: 65	Did you ever think he played upon your characters kind heart and persuaded you to let him go?? Evil chars'll do that to ya =) lol

07-06-2002, 11:29 PM	#5
Greadius The Magister Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 126	Fortunately I'm neutral-confused so that didn't affect me much, but I had a problem with that alignment situation as well. The game makes the assumption you are certain they are evil, which, unless you can detect evil (ahem), you can't do. Especially if you're an honorable character you can't kill someone after they surrender... it would have been better to try and arrest him, he fights back, THEN kill him. They evil might be because you agree to take his ear and decieve old Kedrack with it. I suppose it shows that there are still limitations on CRPGs (although there are only a few intstances I've noticed).

07-08-2002, 02:37 PM	#7
AndyG Elminster Join Date: June 20, 2002 Location: Manchester, CT Age: 55 Posts: 422	It's fairly easy to get points back for good. The easiest way is to refuse a reward after a quest.

07-08-2002, 09:50 PM	#9
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	joining the dark side err...I mean evil is easy too, just threaten people left and right.

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