Are men pigs? An article. - Page 2

03-03-2002, 09:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
i'll just say this: all stereotypes anger me and are mostly false. I, for one, would never cheat on a relationship, and anyone who thinks i would merely because I'm a man needs to get his or her head on straight. I'm a farily level-headed guy, except for a few instances, and any woman who says "All men are pigs" is no better than a man saying that all women are cold and heartless. We are not one unit; we are not Borg, we are human and each of us have individual personalities and values.

I agree wholeheartedly. IF somebody comes up to me and tells me I'm a pig or whatever beause I'm a man they can expect to be in DEEP shit

so 6 out of 8 men cheated on her? whoopee! well that's a good smaple of the billions of menonthe planet isn't it?

as the other guy said maybe she was as much the problem as those guiys

And as for cheating, yes, womendo it as well. but not ALL of them ,just as not ALL men do this

Epona · 03-04-2002, 05:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Lord Shield:

I agree wholeheartedly. IF somebody comes up to me and tells me I'm a pig or whatever beause I'm a man they can expect to be in DEEP shit

so 6 out of 8 men cheated on her? whoopee! well that's a good smaple of the billions of menonthe planet isn't it?

as the other guy said maybe she was as much the problem as those guiys

And as for cheating, yes, womendo it as well. but not ALL of them ,just as not ALL men do this

I hate generalisations. I don't think her survey was very sound, statistically speaking. She should have had a far wider data pool before making any statistical statement on her findings. I think perhaps a randomly generated sample of say, 3000 men? [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

Sir Kenyth · 03-04-2002, 08:49 AM

Great comments!

Sir Kenyth · 03-04-2002, 08:56 AM

I was worried that some might take mild offense to articles like this. I'm pleased that it's stirred interest. I have a couple others I'll post to see what you think.

Avatar · 03-04-2002, 10:28 AM

I don't know if all men are pigs, and I doubt it. But I certainly am...
I am such a useless idiot and I spoil the best of friendships...
I am a hazard to those that care for me and a bane to the general public. I am pig, I look like one and act more so like one.
No I am not PINK and I can't fly.
I have no talents save being stupid....

Barry the Sprout · 03-04-2002, 11:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Epona:

I hate generalisations. I don't think her survey was very sound, statistically speaking. She should have had a far wider data pool before making any statistical statement on her findings. I think perhaps a randomly generated sample of say, 3000 men? [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

If she takes a sample of 1024 she will be 97% likely to be able to construct a confidence interval of 95% showing whether or not men cheat. (I think, its been a while since I did Stats properly)

There... wasn't that interesting...

Sir Kenyth · 03-04-2002, 11:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Avatar:
I don't know if all men are pigs, and I doubt it. But I certainly am...
I am such a useless idiot and I spoil the best of friendships...
I am a hazard to those that care for me and a bane to the general public. I am pig, I look like one and act more so like one.
No I am not PINK and I can't fly.
I have no talents save being stupid....

Ummmmmmmm..........Don't sweat it! Say 1000 Hail Marys and try better in the future!

Epona · 03-04-2002, 12:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kenyth:

Ummmmmmmm..........Don't sweat it! Say 1000 Hail Marys and try better in the future!

Absolutely, mistakes are only truly worthless if you fail to learn from them...

Avatar · 03-04-2002, 12:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Epona:

Absolutely, mistakes are only truly worthless if you fail to learn from them...

But I really do hope it is the last time... love makes us different

03-04-2002, 01:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
i'll just say this: all stereotypes anger me and are mostly false. I, for one, would never cheat on a relationship, and anyone who thinks i would merely because I'm a man needs to get his or her head on straight. I'm a farily level-headed guy, except for a few instances, and any woman who says "All men are pigs" is no better than a man saying that all women are cold and heartless. We are not one unit; we are not Borg, we are human and each of us have individual personalities and values.

Hehe Actually I think you are wrong on one account..Stereotypes are frequently all to correct and on the money, the problem is treating INDIVIDUALS as ther stereotype..any individual may not fit the stereotype and should be treated as an unknown quantity, however if the sho fits...then the stereo type is true. I wont go into which ones are accurate and which ones aren't Ill just say...they exist for a reason and stereotypes just dont pop into existance from thin air.

03-03-2002, 09:21 AM	#11
Lord Shield Guest Posts: n/a	quote: Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth: i'll just say this: all stereotypes anger me and are mostly false. I, for one, would never cheat on a relationship, and anyone who thinks i would merely because I'm a man needs to get his or her head on straight. I'm a farily level-headed guy, except for a few instances, and any woman who says "All men are pigs" is no better than a man saying that all women are cold and heartless. We are not one unit; we are not Borg, we are human and each of us have individual personalities and values. I agree wholeheartedly. IF somebody comes up to me and tells me I'm a pig or whatever beause I'm a man they can expect to be in DEEP shit so 6 out of 8 men cheated on her? whoopee! well that's a good smaple of the billions of menonthe planet isn't it? as the other guy said maybe she was as much the problem as those guiys And as for cheating, yes, womendo it as well. but not ALL of them ,just as not ALL men do this

03-04-2002, 05:51 AM	#12
Epona Zartan Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 53 Posts: 5,164	quote: Originally posted by Lord Shield: I agree wholeheartedly. IF somebody comes up to me and tells me I'm a pig or whatever beause I'm a man they can expect to be in DEEP shit so 6 out of 8 men cheated on her? whoopee! well that's a good smaple of the billions of menonthe planet isn't it? as the other guy said maybe she was as much the problem as those guiys And as for cheating, yes, womendo it as well. but not ALL of them ,just as not ALL men do this I hate generalisations. I don't think her survey was very sound, statistically speaking. She should have had a far wider data pool before making any statistical statement on her findings. I think perhaps a randomly generated sample of say, 3000 men? [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/epona.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

03-04-2002, 08:49 AM	#13
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,785	Great comments! __________________ Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.

03-04-2002, 08:56 AM	#14
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,785	I was worried that some might take mild offense to articles like this. I'm pleased that it's stirred interest. I have a couple others I'll post to see what you think. __________________ Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.

03-04-2002, 10:28 AM	#15
Avatar Vampire Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: Cambridge Age: 40 Posts: 3,877	I don't know if all men are pigs, and I doubt it. But I certainly am... I am such a useless idiot and I spoil the best of friendships... I am a hazard to those that care for me and a bane to the general public. I am pig, I look like one and act more so like one. No I am not PINK and I can't fly. I have no talents save being stupid.... __________________ <b>Ê†ë®Ñï†Ý \'s Avariel<br /></b><br />Creator and Mithril Protector of the ALSB Clan <br /> [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/avatar.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

03-04-2002, 11:55 AM	#16
Barry the Sprout White Dragon Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: York, UK. Age: 41 Posts: 1,815	quote: Originally posted by Epona: I hate generalisations. I don't think her survey was very sound, statistically speaking. She should have had a far wider data pool before making any statistical statement on her findings. I think perhaps a randomly generated sample of say, 3000 men? [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] If she takes a sample of 1024 she will be 97% likely to be able to construct a confidence interval of 95% showing whether or not men cheat. (I think, its been a while since I did Stats properly) There... wasn't that interesting... __________________ [img]\"http://img1.ranchoweb.com/images/sproutman/certwist.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br /><i>\"And the angels all pallid and wan,<br />Uprising, unveiling, affirm,<br />That the play is the tragedy, man,<br />And its hero the Conquerer Worm.\"</i><br /> - Edgar Allan Poe

03-04-2002, 11:57 AM	#17
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,785	quote: Originally posted by Avatar: I don't know if all men are pigs, and I doubt it. But I certainly am... I am such a useless idiot and I spoil the best of friendships... I am a hazard to those that care for me and a bane to the general public. I am pig, I look like one and act more so like one. No I am not PINK and I can't fly. I have no talents save being stupid.... Ummmmmmmm..........Don't sweat it! Say 1000 Hail Marys and try better in the future! __________________ Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.

03-04-2002, 12:03 PM	#18
Epona Zartan Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 53 Posts: 5,164	quote: Originally posted by Sir Kenyth: Ummmmmmmm..........Don't sweat it! Say 1000 Hail Marys and try better in the future! Absolutely, mistakes are only truly worthless if you fail to learn from them... __________________ [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/epona.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

03-04-2002, 12:44 PM	#19
Avatar Vampire Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: Cambridge Age: 40 Posts: 3,877	quote: Originally posted by Epona: Absolutely, mistakes are only truly worthless if you fail to learn from them... But I really do hope it is the last time... love makes us different __________________ <b>Ê†ë®Ñï†Ý \'s Avariel<br /></b><br />Creator and Mithril Protector of the ALSB Clan <br /> [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/avatar.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

03-04-2002, 01:11 PM	#20
MagiK Guest Posts: n/a	quote: Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth: i'll just say this: all stereotypes anger me and are mostly false. I, for one, would never cheat on a relationship, and anyone who thinks i would merely because I'm a man needs to get his or her head on straight. I'm a farily level-headed guy, except for a few instances, and any woman who says "All men are pigs" is no better than a man saying that all women are cold and heartless. We are not one unit; we are not Borg, we are human and each of us have individual personalities and values. Hehe Actually I think you are wrong on one account..Stereotypes are frequently all to correct and on the money, the problem is treating INDIVIDUALS as ther stereotype..any individual may not fit the stereotype and should be treated as an unknown quantity, however if the sho fits...then the stereo type is true. I wont go into which ones are accurate and which ones aren't Ill just say...they exist for a reason and stereotypes just dont pop into existance from thin air.

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