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Old 02-08-2003, 03:26 PM   #11
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I have been in a serious long distance relationship for about eighteen months. It is very difficult and something you really have to be committed to and work at. Hang in there; you have my sympathies.
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Old 02-08-2003, 04:07 PM   #12
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LD relationships are really tough. I really hope it works for you and something becomes of all of this.

I'm rooting for you

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Old 02-08-2003, 04:28 PM   #13
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Hey Jorath! Long distance is really rough. I spent a year waiting for my sweetheart to come out this way and it was a very LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG year, no matter what the calendar said! You'll make it if you two keep in touch and talk about plans for when you get together again.
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Old 02-08-2003, 08:00 PM   #14
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You westerners (I mean europe and USA people) care about moral relationship so much? It's surprising, don't misunderstood me I don't mean that you are all heartless, care only about sex and material people but for most of the western people that's the way it's. Love is above all in my opinion and faithfulness to person you love is really important. Sometimes I chat with western people they get shock with my style and I get shock with their ideas too I dont let my girl to wear mini skirt. and decolette is not in my book. That's the way it's in my opinion. We are man we gotta protect our woman. Our woman should work LESSER than us. It's us who gotta work more. But she'll make the cooking and ironing cleaning.

FIRST OF ALL, A WOMAN SHOULD BE A MOTHER BEFORE BEING A INDIVIDUAL PERSON.
What's individualism? Stupid career work economic independance?! if you cannot be a good mother then these all things are meanless

I'm not prohibitive but I'm protective I own, possess my woman. A woman who had many sex experiences before is not precious than a maiden girl. But for women, it's the opposite. Experienced man is more ideal.

We have to protect "family model". A world full of ally mc beals, couples without children will lead us to doomsday. Think about a family they are 4 people. They live in a house. Now think about 4 person who lives seperated think about the field they fill. It's x4! Their consuming, electric, square all is x4. We are destroying the world and now we are destroying ourselves. The future is in our hands.
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Old 02-08-2003, 08:24 PM   #15
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I like you Zoltan .. but then again, Im 17 years old which would make me fit nicely in the derailed teenagers category .. so I'm not sure that's a good thing

Though I doubt an individual suddenly uses just as much electricity as a
4-person large family. Well, maybe he just tries to fill the void somehow, but I still doubt it.
But maybe you've struck a point here, since most americans are overweight .. yeah .. they eat so much because they wanna fill up the void of being individual. No wonder you gain weight if you eat family-size stuff, it all makes sense now.

Your views on love are most definetly right and the way you respect a woman is too. But I guess we just interprete that respect differently.
You protect her out of respect and it has a very noble thought-pattern behind it, while we try to not protect her as much as possible out of respect for her individuality and equality ( quite a few woman dont like to be protected, want to stand up for themselves .
Both have the right principles behind them though.

(I still dont like emancipation though, stupid women keep hurting my feelings)

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Old 02-08-2003, 08:34 PM   #16
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Yeah, it's kinda the test of true love. If both of you can wait 6 months, then it's real. If you go into the titty ■■■■■■■ "if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with" syndrome, it's not real, just overactive hormones, IMHO.
does your advice include telling lies about other women's boyfriends because we don't really like that[/QUOTE]Purre, ...this is the 4th thread I'm locking or having to post in, thanks to your rudeness. I know you're upset but trashing other people's threads isn't the way to go, believe me.
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Old 02-08-2003, 08:40 PM   #17
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hang in there jorath, she will come to u soon [img]smile.gif[/img] ... okay, when i read zoltans view of woman, it kinda made me offended. for one thing, us guys dont own ANYBODY, God didnt put us on earth to pocess others, yes in the early part of this nations history we did have slaves, but that all ended a longtime ago. we dont own women.. what makes u think guys do?? being in a relationship works both ways, its not a one way street. if the relationship doesnt work it was lack of both parties not just one. to say that us westerners are just in it for the sex is just not right.. most men, like me, believe in a relationship full of love and trust. the other part believe in women as a play toy, use em and leave em, and that isnt right. when i meet the right one, i dont care if she has kids or not, experience or not, i will accept the person as a whole. u cant be putting yourself on a higher platform than others. nobody wants a guy who is so stuck on himself. neither does guys like that in women who think that as well.. QUIT BEING CHOOSY.. just let things happen....
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Old 02-08-2003, 09:49 PM   #18
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I'm not prohibitive but I'm protective I own, possess my woman
Slavery was abolished in the western world a long time ago. Anybody coarse enough to speak of "owning" and "possessing" another human being is not really worth listening to. It's a shame you will never experience the joy of love between two people who consider each other equals.

I must also add that in my experience, men who espouse views such as Zoltan's tend to have a deep-seated fear and hatred of women, stemming from feelings of severe inadequacy. That is purely my personal experience, however.

My only regret about your post is that I wasted a whole 45 seconds of my life reading it

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Old 02-08-2003, 09:52 PM   #19
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atleast your still with her...*grumbleds about his *real* problems*...
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Old 02-08-2003, 09:59 PM   #20
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You westerners (I mean europe and USA people) care about moral relationship so much? It's surprising, don't misunderstood me I don't mean that you are all heartless, care only about sex and material people but for most of the western people that's the way it's. Love is above all in my opinion and faithfulness to person you love is really important. Sometimes I chat with western people they get shock with my style and I get shock with their ideas too I dont let my girl to wear mini skirt. and decolette is not in my book. That's the way it's in my opinion. We are man we gotta protect our woman. Our woman should work LESSER than us. It's us who gotta work more. But she'll make the cooking and ironing cleaning.

FIRST OF ALL, A WOMAN SHOULD BE A MOTHER BEFORE BEING A INDIVIDUAL PERSON.
What's individualism? Stupid career work economic independance?! if you cannot be a good mother then these all things are meanless

I'm not prohibitive but I'm protective I own, possess my woman. A woman who had many sex experiences before is not precious than a maiden girl. But for women, it's the opposite. Experienced man is more ideal.

We have to protect "family model". A world full of ally mc beals, couples without children will lead us to doomsday. Think about a family they are 4 people. They live in a house. Now think about 4 person who lives seperated think about the field they fill. It's x4! Their consuming, electric, square all is x4. We are destroying the world and now we are destroying ourselves. The future is in our hands.
I recognize what you're talking about, we westerners were like that once. We called it "the dark ages". We left that far behind us. women are allowed to think for themselves now. Does that scare you ?
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