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niklas_26 · 12-03-2001, 06:01 AM

Hi I have problems knowing how much the caracter improves when leveling up

exampel: minsk gained 1 Thaco and 3 HP when going from 9 to level 10

and my Fighter also gained 3 HP and 1 THACO.

Is this normal? it seems low to me

Rob · 12-03-2001, 06:14 AM

Up unto level 9 you gain a full hit dice. All fighter classes and subclasses that should be 10. So for first 9 levels you can gain 90 hp, 10 per level. This is of course if you have no bonus to HP for a very high Con score. 1 Thaco is normal for them per level up until they reach their max at like 19. At level 19 thaco stops improving but by then its like 1. That means unless you critical miss you basically hit everything. Now back to the HP madder. Past level 9 you only gain a faint amount of HP. For fighter classes and subclasses it is just that, 3. Its sad and pathetically little but by then you should already have alot. Other character classes would gain different amounts of Hp. Mages gain 4 per level, Most other classes gain either 6 or 8. Barbarians get the insanely good HP at 12 if I'm not mistaken. Even if I am I'm sure you get the idea.

niklas_26 · 12-03-2001, 06:20 AM

Thanks!

Sir Exxon · 12-03-2001, 09:08 AM

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see ya!

Rob · 12-04-2001, 05:09 AM

Good to be here. =)

12-04-2001, 10:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by niklas_26:
Hi I have problems knowing how much the caracter improves when leveling up

exampel: minsk gained 1 Thaco and 3 HP when going from 9 to level 10

and my Fighter also gained 3 HP and 1 THACO.

Is this normal? it seems low to me

it sucks the amount of hps you get at higher levels. my only hope is that its been changed in TOB.

Kaleban · 12-04-2001, 10:42 AM

The hit point system does not suck in my opinion, it makes sense really. If you look at it this way, a character can only become so tough before physical limits take over, and of course Fighter-types and Barbarians would be the "most" tough due to their intense combat training.

So as you grow in power, early on you're building muscle, strength, and endurance, but past a point, your body would reach its limit on what it can improve after slaughtering countless hordes of enemies for years.

Morgeruat · 12-04-2001, 10:53 AM

on a related note, i imported a paladin from bg1, 19 con (tome) (i spent alot of time rerolling hp's everytime i leveled for max, and had 120 hp's at lvl 8 (80 from rolls plus 5 per level from con) when i she came into bg2 she had 80 hps, anyone else have anything similar happen to them?

Mack_Attack · 12-04-2001, 11:06 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Morgeruat:
on a related note, i imported a paladin from bg1, 19 con (tome) (i spent alot of time rerolling hp's everytime i leveled for max, and had 120 hp's at lvl 8 (80 from rolls plus 5 per level from con) when i she came into bg2 she had 80 hps, anyone else have anything similar happen to them?

I am sure you have seen this but it looks like no con bonus you could always go through Sk and upgrade this to it's 120. I think this would be fair since your PC earned those HP.

Sinnestersteve · 12-04-2001, 06:56 PM

Hey, im glad I read this post, i've been going crazy wondering why my characters arent gaining squat for hp's after they reached the teens. Im gald to see that it wasnt a bug, of course im also rather disapointed in the lack of hp gains, but hey. I guess my mage just better make double sure he stays out of the way of ugly guys with big swords heheh.

12-03-2001, 06:14 AM	#2
Rob Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 30, 2001 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 13	Up unto level 9 you gain a full hit dice. All fighter classes and subclasses that should be 10. So for first 9 levels you can gain 90 hp, 10 per level. This is of course if you have no bonus to HP for a very high Con score. 1 Thaco is normal for them per level up until they reach their max at like 19. At level 19 thaco stops improving but by then its like 1. That means unless you critical miss you basically hit everything. Now back to the HP madder. Past level 9 you only gain a faint amount of HP. For fighter classes and subclasses it is just that, 3. Its sad and pathetically little but by then you should already have alot. Other character classes would gain different amounts of Hp. Mages gain 4 per level, Most other classes gain either 6 or 8. Barbarians get the insanely good HP at 12 if I'm not mistaken. Even if I am I'm sure you get the idea. __________________ I feel your pain, I know that critical hit hurt so much... what can I do to make it up to you? <br />~Critical hits him again~<br />:rambo::shooter04:

12-04-2001, 05:09 AM	#5
Rob Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 30, 2001 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 13	Good to be here. =) __________________ I feel your pain, I know that critical hit hurt so much... what can I do to make it up to you? <br />~Critical hits him again~<br />:rambo::shooter04:

12-04-2001, 10:35 AM	#6
Anarion Guest Posts: n/a	quote: Originally posted by niklas_26: Hi I have problems knowing how much the caracter improves when leveling up exampel: minsk gained 1 Thaco and 3 HP when going from 9 to level 10 and my Fighter also gained 3 HP and 1 THACO. Is this normal? it seems low to me it sucks the amount of hps you get at higher levels. my only hope is that its been changed in TOB.

12-04-2001, 10:42 AM	#7
Kaleban Manshoon Join Date: October 12, 2001 Location: Bloomington, MN, USA Posts: 244	The hit point system does not suck in my opinion, it makes sense really. If you look at it this way, a character can only become so tough before physical limits take over, and of course Fighter-types and Barbarians would be the "most" tough due to their intense combat training. So as you grow in power, early on you're building muscle, strength, and endurance, but past a point, your body would reach its limit on what it can improve after slaughtering countless hordes of enemies for years. __________________ He Will Win<BR>Whose Army Is Animated<BR>By The Same Spirit<BR>Throughout Its Ranks<P>Sun Tzu - The Art of War

12-04-2001, 10:53 AM	#8
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 43 Posts: 5,421	on a related note, i imported a paladin from bg1, 19 con (tome) (i spent alot of time rerolling hp's everytime i leveled for max, and had 120 hp's at lvl 8 (80 from rolls plus 5 per level from con) when i she came into bg2 she had 80 hps, anyone else have anything similar happen to them? __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

12-03-2001, 06:01 AM	#1
niklas_26 Welcomed New User Join Date: December 3, 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 2	Hi I have problems knowing how much the caracter improves when leveling up exampel: minsk gained 1 Thaco and 3 HP when going from 9 to level 10 and my Fighter also gained 3 HP and 1 THACO. Is this normal? it seems low to me

12-03-2001, 06:20 AM	#3
niklas_26 Welcomed New User Join Date: December 3, 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 2	Thanks!

12-03-2001, 09:08 AM	#4
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 35 Posts: 5,367	[img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] WELCOME TO IRONWORKS, BOTH OF YOU! [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] see ya!

12-04-2001, 11:06 AM	#9
Mack_Attack Osiris - Egyptian God of the Underworld Join Date: May 22, 2001 Location: Sherwoodpark,Alberta,Canada Age: 51 Posts: 2,929	quote: Originally posted by Morgeruat: on a related note, i imported a paladin from bg1, 19 con (tome) (i spent alot of time rerolling hp's everytime i leveled for max, and had 120 hp's at lvl 8 (80 from rolls plus 5 per level from con) when i she came into bg2 she had 80 hps, anyone else have anything similar happen to them? I am sure you have seen this but it looks like no con bonus you could always go through Sk and upgrade this to it's 120. I think this would be fair since your PC earned those HP. __________________

12-04-2001, 06:56 PM	#10
Sinnestersteve Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: October 31, 2001 Posts: 17	Hey, im glad I read this post, i've been going crazy wondering why my characters arent gaining squat for hp's after they reached the teens. Im gald to see that it wasnt a bug, of course im also rather disapointed in the lack of hp gains, but hey. I guess my mage just better make double sure he stays out of the way of ugly guys with big swords heheh.

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