Our beliefs construct our world - true or false?

[Diogenes Of Pumpkintown]

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah: How do our beliefs affect the way we see and live in the world? I think they are fundamental. Unfortunately, very often we are not even aware that our beliefs ARE beliefs, - we think that they are truth. What do you think? I'm not talking exclusively religious beliefs here, though I'm up for discussion on them too - certainly they are as relevant as any other form of belief!!

Clearly, our beliefs about the world help shape the world we experience. Sazerac used the phrase "self fulfilling prophecy" and I agree with his points regarding that totally.

Another example is that of the person who views other people as basically good and worthy of being treated decently and respectfully. That person's beliefs will tend to be self fulfilling -- as people are treated in this way, they will tend to respond in kind. Conversely, a person who views the world as an awful dog eat dog, screw each other over type of place will also find such a view self fulfilling in his reality -- as he treats people in a less than generous fashion, such will only tend to be returned.

However, don't misunderstand me. I agree with Lemernis' point that this does not mean that reality is totally subjective or totally dependent on our views. We are talking in terms of tendencies here, not absolutes.

[Silver Cheetah]

Great posts everyone, thanks VERY much. I wanted everyone's views as the subject is relevant to something I'm working on at present. I found the points well thought out and interesting.

Special thanks to Sazerac and Lemernis, who have clarified my own thinking on this subject.

Any more thoughts on this more than welcome!

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Most Ecstatic and Exotic Mistress of the Illuminati

True. I create my own reality, and beliefs are one of the tools I have in order to do so with purpoose.

[SSJ4Sephiroth]

true. my beliefs are who i am, and they're what many people are as well.

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warm feelings doth come,
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[Fljotsdale]

Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth: true. my beliefs are who i am, and they're what many people are as well.

Ye gods, Sephiroth! You've added EVEN MORE to your sig! What are you doing? Trying for the record??!! I think you've surpassed it by a LOOOOOONG way, lol!

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Dubbed Queen of the Illuminati by Diogenes.

[Moridin]

Originally posted by Fljotsdale: Ye gods, Sephiroth! You've added EVEN MORE to your sig! What are you doing? Trying for the record??!! I think you've surpassed it by a LOOOOOONG way, lol!

LOL Fljotsdale...I always think there are at least a half dozen posts after Sephiroth's b/c the scroll bar is only half way down the page, but I scroll and scroll and scroll and bam that's the end of the thread


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[Fljotsdale]

Originally posted by Moridin: LOL Fljotsdale...I always think there are at least a half dozen posts after Sephiroth's b/c the scroll bar is only half way down the page, but I scroll and scroll and scroll and bam that's the end of the thread

You too, huh? I'ts perfectly possible to get bored waiting for Seph's sig to roll past, lol!

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Dubbed Queen of the Illuminati by Diogenes.

[This message has been edited by Fljotsdale (edited 10-05-2001).]

[Silver Cheetah]

Originally posted by G'kar: True. I create my own reality, and beliefs are one of the tools I have in order to do so with purpoose.

Aha. A man after my own heart. My five favorite words all in a sentence, one after the other.

I create my own reality.

Oh boy, don't I just.....

Thanks for reminding me, G'Kar, my sense of that has got a bit lost over the past few days. I always seem to forget wisdom at the time I most need to have it in the forefront of my mind.... Then when I most need it, there it is. You're a star. (But you know that.... )



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Most Ecstatic and Exotic Mistress of the Illuminati

[Silver Cheetah]

Originally posted by Fljotsdale: You too, huh? I'ts perfectly possible to get bored waiting for Seph's sig to roll past, lol!

Isn't there a limit on how long a sig can be? It's a real pain when a sig is 6 million times longer than the post itself.


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Most Ecstatic and Exotic Mistress of the Illuminati

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah: Aha. A man after my own heart. My five favorite words all in a sentence, one after the other. I create my own reality. Oh boy, don't I just..... Thanks for reminding me, G'Kar, my sense of that has got a bit lost over the past few days. I always seem to forget wisdom at the time I most need to have it in the forefront of my mind.... Then when I most need it, there it is. You're a star. (But you know that.... )

Pleased to be of service Great ideas are free after all!!!