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And that's the second time you have made the mistake of thinking that I am a young person. I am older than you are and therefore by your own admission: I need show no respect for your opinion. I am more experienced in life than you are and therefore I am always right and you are always wrong. [ 05-23-2002, 05:41 AM: Message edited by: Donut ]
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What I will agree with you on is that you are more likely to be a victim of crime in England than in the USA but I haven't heard anyone disputing this. If you live where I live in London it is even more dangerous. If you live in Central London (like Epona) you are virtually a crime statistic waiting to happen. The preponderence of guns just makes it more likely that during a crime someone will get killed. Here is a link to a site which disputes your statistics on the effect of hand gun control in Australia. I guess you can use statistics to prove anything.
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Eh, I am not an American nor a European, but over where I live, illegal possession of firearms is punishable by death. Only policemen, soldiers, security guards, and sport shooters( who also double as crow shooters) are allowed to have them by license.
I guess my environment is different, but I would never vote for legal possession of firearms by citizens. Death by firearm is virtually non-existent here, maybe 2-4 cases a year, out of a population of 4 million. I would rather face a thug with a knife, than a thug with a gun. |
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My comment on children having no opinions of interest to me about child rearing has nothing to do with this. AND I DID specify CHILDREN and people who have never been parents. Since there is noone on the planet that can consider me a "Child" chronologicly your comment is false from the start. I also never said ANYTHING about RESPECT with my comment. AND lastly THIS thread is about firearms more commonly called Guns So...Pardon me if I assume you are being on topic in your posts and not completely out in left field. And why do I keep mistaking you for a child? I think Ill refrain from commenting on that since it wouldnt serve any useful purpose. How can you be so hypocritical in your comments? You sit there and misquote me left and right then bash me for assumeing you are on topic? Man I really do not understand you. |
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05-23-2002, 09:26 AM | #137 |
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Slightly defensive reply there Magik. I seem to have hit a nerve.
You should not assume my comments were based purely on the child rearing thread. There have been a succession of diatribes from you in which you speak of your disrespect for the opinion of young people. I was merely taking your mistaken viewpoint to it's logical nonsensical extreme. The debate about firearms and deaths caused by them cannot be disentangled from the debate about murder of any form. The two go together. As for your thinly disguised insult about me being a child I shall treat it with the same disrespect that I treat all of your trollish tripe. PS. Please don't waste your time PM'ing me an apology this time. [ 05-23-2002, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: Donut ]
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What I will agree with you on is that you are more likely to be a victim of crime in England than in the USA but I haven't heard anyone disputing this. If you live where I live in London it is even more dangerous. If you live in Central London (like Epona) you are virtually a crime statistic waiting to happen. The preponderence of guns just makes it more likely that during a crime someone will get killed. Here is a link to a site which disputes your statistics on the effect of hand gun control in Australia. I guess you can use statistics to prove anything. [/QUOTE]Statistics from IANSA are not even worth looking at...geez, lets find the biggest gun haters and ask them to be fair...yeah right. At least Sir T. didn't go right to the NRA and get his statistics..... |
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As for apologizing, I apologize when I have done something I discover was wrong, this time Im in the right, that is exactly why I believe you a child. You NEVER admit you are wrong, or have done wrong. I do admit that I do a disservice to children when I act like I always assume that it is only the children that are like this, but in actuality it is only because I expect better from so called adults. Edit: Please Donut, in the future, feel free to ignore my trollish tripe. Id rather not have you derailing the discussions of people who want to address the issue that is being discussed. [ 05-23-2002, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ] |
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