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Old 11-18-2004, 02:20 PM   #21
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Stratos, I saw a show on the Discovery Channel awhile back, on Atlantis, and they mentioned the map, so I can back up what Azred is saying.

Also, a quick AllTheWeb-ing(well, everybody says Google-ing...but I prefer www.alltheweb.com ...so there...anyway...) revealed this link, which shows the map, along with a modern satelite image of Antartica, and has an interesting article to go with it. There are source links at the bottom of the article.

And HERE is a direct link to a pic of the map itself, in decent detail.

EDIT: Stupid Tripod...here is the straight link to the pic. Copy/paste it into a new window: http://members.tripod.com/~Zomb/ORONTEUS.GIF

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Old 11-18-2004, 02:20 PM   #22
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Any links to a picture of this medieval map showing the Antarctican coastline, perhaps?

Antarctica has been frozen for a long time, and it seems unlikely that someone would keep a map around showing it's coastline. Heck, it's unlikely that such a map would even exist.
The Piri Reis Map, available for your amusement and perusal. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:10 PM   #23
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Hey, maybe this is where Osama's hiding out. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:19 PM   #24
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That sure would explain a lot.

I love that site; one of my favorites. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:22 PM   #25
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Stratos, I saw a show on the Discovery Channel awhile back, on Atlantis, and they mentioned the map, so I can back up what Azred is saying.
I saw that show too!
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Old 11-18-2004, 04:03 PM   #26
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Stratos, I saw a show on the Discovery Channel awhile back, on Atlantis, and they mentioned the map, so I can back up what Azred is saying.
I saw that show too! [/QUOTE]Good show. I dont know if I can fully believe their suppositions, but still, it was rather entertaining. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-18-2004, 05:26 PM   #27
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Actually Atlantis was, as the article said, the nation that PLATO spoke about. It's a specific culture, not some global catch phrase. When they speak of finding Atlantis, they speak of finding the culture Plato described. Many considered early Crete to be Atlantis for example.
I don't disagree that Plato was the first person to record the story of Atlantis, but I am talking about what Atlantis represents mythologically--the "golden age" of early humanity before the world went downhill. This myth exists in all cultures throughout the world, [/QUOTE]That's more like EDEN not Atlantis. Atlantis was Plato's baby. Atlantis is a specific, not a generalised place or culture.
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There was a pre-Greek society that was destroyed by a cataclysm--the Minoans. The geolocial evidence points to a volcanic eruption and subsequent tidal wave. Ouch.
Historians agree this is more likely to be Plato's Atlantis. Unless this new find is actually it. Could perhaps, more clarifyingly explain the origins of "the sea peoples" who became the Phonecians and Philistines.
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Clarifyingly? You been reading the George Bush dictionary? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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That's more like EDEN not Atlantis. Atlantis was Plato's baby. Atlantis is a specific, not a generalised place or culture.
I know; I simply equate the two. Artistic, [img]graemlins/erm.gif[/img] I mean scientific license. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]
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Azred: Fair enough. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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