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Old 01-28-2002, 08:11 PM   #11
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I am sure Norompolansis would like Mr Thatcher added as one of the reasons, but I really didn't want to type out all of the reasons I hate her.


mr thatcher... lol barry [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img]

what do i hate about england? well, i said a few things in the other thread but i was mostly kidding. but since i already stated what i dont like, ill say what i do like.

when i was there (lived in torquay and the torbay area for a while) the people were very nice, helpful and polite. i also really liked the food. no matter what they say, i thought it was great, fresh and tasty. i also like its football, rough and with no diving. i love the fact that all roads seem to have been carved straight through the forests, and the way they care about the greenspots. also, its surrounded by ocean, which is never a bad thing.

oh, and of course, john cleese absolutely rules.
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Old 01-28-2002, 08:21 PM   #12
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1. When giving colonies independance we pulled out the entire civil service at once. 40 years on we look at countries in disarray due to civil war and economic crisis and act gracious in cancelling debt. Hmmm, how very kind.



I really don't know much about any of these,but...


Countries who achieve Independance usually aren't interested in having the old "rulers" around. Leaving civil servants behind without protection probably isn't a good idea. Unless they left the former colony after they had been asked to stay and help I can't blame them much on this one. Staying behind to make sure everything "worked" out doesn't really leave anyone independant does it?

The problem with colonization, as a whole, is that it drags nations, who are unprepared, out of their "present" and into their own "future" at a seriously unnatural rate of speed. They aren't ready and neither is the world.

Oh yeah, the thing about not testifying at your own trial and the judge telling the jury it's an indication you're guilty SUCKS!

See Barry, we can agree
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Old 01-29-2002, 01:29 AM   #13
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Top 3 Reasons why I hate England

3. The fact it takes so G***** long to swim to it from holland
2. Spice Girls
1. Liverpool FC

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Old 01-29-2002, 03:34 AM   #14
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Ya know you could write a list about any country in the world
None of them are prefect and none ever will be

"Hate" is such a strong powerful word that a lot of people seem to use far too liberally

If you find the UK too sickening I suggest you do something about it.....move countries, go find your perfect land, lots of people emigrate from different places so its not a big deal and would rid your heart and mind of such hatred.

I am defintely not a royalist so I can see that the English Royal family are an expense etc........BUT they are a huge source of tourist income and help bring in a lot of revenue and I do believe they do some good PR work between UK and other countries.
Also if we were to get rid of them I think there would be a time in the future that people would look back at the assholes that got rid of a part of English history......
Is a far bigger picture than the fact that they are a bit of a joke really.

Not testiying in court tells me you are guilty.....an innocent man has nothing to hide [img]smile.gif[/img]
I know some court systems in other countries that are certainly worse than ours....or appear so

Having travelled all over Europe with the Army I can say I appreciate England, I don't mean to put other countries down, just that you get used to and miss your homeland.
You normally find people who shout loudest are those that don't know any different

My advice is leave the Uk or commit suicide, as I can't see how you can continue life with such hatred in your heart [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-29-2002, 05:51 AM   #15
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My oh my, you're the FIRST person the understand my name, bravo [img]smile.gif[/img]
[ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: Sir ReGiN ]



Now hold on a minute! I know who Regin is! He is Count von Uberwald's Manservant in Discworld Noir right? It bugged me for a while but I got there... An amazing game I have to say. If there are people on here who haven't played then I strongly recommend that they do. Think of the earlier Discworld games but then think much much better and less cartoony. And it is also hilariously funny:

"Mother told me I should have been a tax collector! "It's good money Mooncalf." she said!".

And to the various people who mentioned the royal family did you know that they cost each tax payer £1 a year? That may not sound much but then consider that there are only 13 of them...

Tarox - as to what you were saying about the royal family. The money they bring in through tourism cannot be quantified. There is no way of knowing that they specifically account for any amount of it. The kind of money they bring in is stuff like sales from of hotdogs outside Buckingham palace, or sales of mugs with the Queen on them. That money is not usually seen by the economy anyway, it is all done on the never-never in the first place. Just a quick question to the foreigners out there (i.e. the majority of people on this board) would you be swayed in your decision to visit a country by whether or not they retain the monarchy? Just a quick question.

Gabriel, I agree with all of yours except for the too hot one. Where do you live....
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Old 01-29-2002, 05:51 AM   #16
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UKs TLDs (top level domain names) It just makes no sense that they as the only country in the world have a domain name that more looks like its a subdomain

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I agree this is shameful. You have no idea how much this keeps me awake at night.
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Old 01-29-2002, 06:12 AM   #17
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Oh this is a GREAT thread!
Woohoo, a chance to moan about England at last (as if I never did before!)

Gabriel mate, I can't agree on the too hot business, it is always too cold here!

Royal family - they would generate just as much money, if not more, from tourism if they were dead and all the palaces were open to the public all year round. Plenty of republics have good tourism, if you think the queen is the only reason to come here then you're missing out! What about the great art galleries, museums, ancient sites, beautiful countryside - that would all be there without the monarchy. The Tate Modern and British Museum get *way* more visitors than buck palace - and if we had no queen we could still keep the palaces as tourist attractions anyway.

But my main gripe about the royals is that they are unelected - and the Queen *does* have a constitutional role, OK so it has never been used in recent times, but she can suspend parliament or refuse to swear in a new government - it makes me very uncomfortable that she has that right - I also agree with the point about hereditary peerage - that has no place in modern society. Did you also know that England only recently did away with the death penalty?? Yes, it was kept on the books for 'High Treason' which could include plotting against the monarchy - yet you could kill Blair and just do your 25 years in the nick.

Plenty of good things about England too, just in case anyone thinks I am all negative - I love the fact that we have ancient history, and once you get out of the stinking pit called London the countryside is so beautiful! (London isn't that bad, but something MUST be done about the traffic!).
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Old 01-29-2002, 06:21 AM   #18
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Epona, our Queen has, in theory, the same power as yours (she can suspend the government etc), but I've never felt uncomfortable knowing that. It's a token power, the minute they'd try to wield it, they'd be stopped in their tracks (unless perhaps we were at war or something).
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Old 01-29-2002, 06:31 AM   #19
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Sorry, can't agree, but then I don't live there. The country that produced Shakespeare, Churchill, Wellington, Saki, Dorothy L. Sayers, Jonathan Gash, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles is all right with me. I'm sure that you have problems, but then, who doesn't? (hums "England swings like a pendulum do...)
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Old 01-29-2002, 06:36 AM   #20
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Sorry, can't agree, but then I don't live there. The country that produced Shakespeare, Churchill, Wellington, Saki, Dorothy L. Sayers, Jonathan Gash, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles is all right with me. I'm sure that you have problems, but then, who doesn't? (hums "England swings like a pendulum do...)


oh god thanbk you
How does that song go and who's is it?
I've been wondering that ever since i saw a Friends rerun of Ross' marriage
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