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Old 10-19-2001, 07:18 AM   #11
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Wanna bet that changes now?
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Old 10-19-2001, 09:13 AM   #12
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Wanna bet that changes now?
I'll take that bet. No oil producing arab country would part with terrorist even if the US was on their door step. They are in control. They call the move. They snap their fingers and the oil stops flowing. Bush knows it and that's why he went against Afghanistan because, even if they are Muslims, they are not well liked in that part of the world. Same for Iraq and that's why there on the list. The others are pretty much untoucheable and they know it.

That's why going after the countries is extremely tricky. There's just too much potential for error.

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Old 10-19-2001, 09:20 AM   #13
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Going after the "Terrorists And The Countrys Who Harbor Them"!

That is a big boast that we (the USA) can not possibly follow up to its end. That's because politics gets in the way. It would mean a good part of the world would end up a smoking pile of debris and rubble. Terrorism is so widespread that this quote will not be taken totally seriously. I hate to say it, but one country's definition of a terrorist is another country's freedom fighter!

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Old 10-19-2001, 10:15 AM   #14
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No terrorist will be extradited from a member state of the EU to the US as long as there is a chance that they will be executed.

Should I buy a new tin hat for the winter?

Having a terrorist in custody is quite different, from harboring them.

EU may not turn them over unless there is a promise of no death penalty, but there will be an agreement made one way or the other because no one in the European Union will want the "heat" from terrorist, and they will be happy to turn over the "evil-ones".


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Old 10-19-2001, 10:36 AM   #15
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Having a terrorist in custody is quite different, from harboring them.

EU may not turn them over unless there is a promise of no death penalty, but there will be an agreement made one way or the other because no one in the European Union will want the "heat" from terrorist, and they will be happy to turn over the "evil-ones".


So does the EU also need evidence to extradite a suspect?

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Old 10-19-2001, 10:45 AM   #16
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So does the EU also need evidence to extradite a suspect?

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According to international sources, many US allies have agreed the US has sufficent evidence already. They wouldn't be in custody if EU countries didn't have evidence.

Just reading these boards, I'm sure you'll agree that EU countries aren't going to hold suspected terrorist just because the US says to.


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Old 10-19-2001, 10:50 AM   #17
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Originally posted by skywalker:
Going after the "Terrorists And The Countrys Who Harbor Them"!

That is a big boast that we (the USA) can not possibly follow up to its end. That's because politics gets in the way. It would mean a good part of the world would end up a smoking pile of debris and rubble. Terrorism is so widespread that this quote will not be taken totally seriously. I hate to say it, but one country's definition of a terrorist is another country's freedom fighter!

Mark

Terrorist who act within their own countries are that countries problem, unless they ask the international community for support. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist, but he attack targets in the US and was not harbored(read as supported) by the US government. We dealt with that problem on our own.

"Freedom Fighters" who leave their country and attack others are not really freedom fighters at all, they are invaders. Governments who support factions within their country, knowing those factions are targeting other countries are supporting terrorism.


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