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Old 07-24-2011, 03:08 PM   #11
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That is what we have been attuned for, standard US media protocol! Get the story out, fix what is incorrect later (if at all), just be the first to get it on the AIR!
Well, that's very amateuristic, that way every imbecile can make statements based on absolutely nothing. In fact, that's journalism of the same standard as the British paperazzi.
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:30 PM   #12
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ARGH!!!!

That ■■■■■■ actually used hollow points as ammo - many of the wounded have severe tissue damage due to the bullets shrapnel in the body!



Yeah Europe is a lot more conservative in regards to weapons - in Denmark were I live it is possible to have guns, but only for hunting ( so a rifle is cool with a permit ) but automatics, guns and shotguns are a no go.
The same applies to Norway - but hunting is a lot more widespread in Norway due to the ruggednes of the country with mountains running almost like a spine through the whole country. This also means that the country is a lot less populated in comparison to area and as such it would most likely be easier to hide something like this.

A few details about this is he used a 950 kg bomb made from fertilizer, the reason that nobody wondered about the fertilizer is that he bought a farm many years ago...as part of the plan that has been 9 years under way as far as the medias tell it today. On the island he dressed as a cop and called the children to him to answer questions in regards to the bomb and then...well 86 people died on the island so far, 7 in the bombing and 20 more are in critical condition.

When it comes to the ideology I do not think this is a widespread problem in Scandinavia or Europe - these terrible incidents are not normal nor are they totally unheard of - but this term "internal terrorism" were people strike at their own country is rare in the western part of the world - and most likely more accepted in lands on the brink of civil war or such...
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Old 07-24-2011, 04:20 PM   #13
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It is uncomfortable to think how sad it would be to have a sibling or child of your own murdered like that..

You can show support for the victims, and for Norway, here.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:18 AM   #14
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Doesn't Norway have a very conservative gun law like the rest of mainland Europe?

How can things of this nature happen?


6 years of preparation...at least. He joined a gun club in 2005 with the aim of getting a gun some time in the future for this. Had a farming company with the aim of buying fertiliser...

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14267007
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:34 AM   #15
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Tragic news. Just an interesting side note that may interest WoW playing European members, this guy was apparently (in addition to MW2) a hardcore WoW raider and GM for a while.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2423044048
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Old 07-25-2011, 09:11 AM   #16
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Actually Johnny, did you know this guy in Nordrassil back in the day? He may have gone by the name Andersnordic or Conservatism.
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:05 PM   #17
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GM ---> Gamemaster

GL ---> Guild Leader


Let's get the abbreviations right mon ami *hehehe*


Truth be told - WoW, MW2 or whatever he played - he has to be one disturbed individual to go around killing people like that. Apparently he actually did listen to several people pleading for their lives - an 11 yrs old kid told him that he had already lost his dad and he was too young to die so he let him be - not that it in any way diminishes what he has done.

I see a lot of people yelling for this guy to get the death penalty - but thats not gonna happen - most likely he will be deemed dangerous for the society and locked away for good in some prison/secure hospital for the mentally insane.

Now had I been a relative I would have yelled for the death penalty too - but as our court systems and penal codes have to objective and not take a personal stance on how to judge criminals it would be a bit hard to kill him. In the end we have to ask if the death penalty would really make a mad man like this discouraged from doing this and I think the answer is no...

...just a thought.
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:25 PM   #18
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Guild Master is the official term for the leader of a guild in WoW. Abbreviated as GM. Maybe other games use GL.

That said, having played D&D for years, I hard a hard time accepting the term "Game Master" referring to the person who referees an RPG, always calling it "Dungeon Master: instead.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:09 AM   #19
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Had a long winded reply ready for this but decided to just ask around my guild before posting and it seems I was wrong....people do say GM about Guild Master. I must be defect due to my work at blizz - I know internally we have always called it GL for a guild leader ( of course GL is known as Good Luck in WoW ) ... honestly *sigh* hehe


But....back on track the Norwegian authorities have down graded the number of dead to 68 instead of 86 on the island so a little "good" thing in all the depressing grayness
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:51 AM   #20
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GM ---> Gamemaster

GL ---> Guild Leader


Let's get the abbreviations right mon ami *hehehe*
LOL in the US we call the guild leaders GMs. We call the Blizz GM Blues.
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