Some lil help about demon knights

Telepath · 05-11-2006, 10:33 PM

I am in need of assistance

I want to kill the Demon Knights in the Kuo-Toa (sp?) dungeon in Underdark.

They are hard.

Very hard.

I die in like two, three rounds. It's not like I've got a crappy team, either... I've spent a good while playing to get here. Main character 2 million XP. Any tips?

The "prince" was eminently easy without any tricks.

The knights... well, I just die.

Kyrvias · 05-12-2006, 12:08 AM

What strategies do you employ? Buffing? Disabling magic? Damage Dealing magic?

Tell us your strategy, and we can critisize it and help you through this ordeal

Balintherlas · 05-12-2006, 12:26 AM

Your gonna wanna summon as many powerful monsters as u can, which is 5, cast negative plain protection on as many party member u can, then just cast the basic buff spells. After that, position your members who r the best fighters and keep your clerics and mages away from the battle. Thats prolly the best basic strategy and should work.

Xen · 05-12-2006, 06:55 AM

Well truth to be told, there is no summoning limit. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Also I have another question: are these improved Demon Knights?

Anyway here's what you should try to do. BUFF!

Ston/Ironskins, PFMW, Free Action, Protection from Fire, Death Ward, Improved Haste ... anything that can protect you. Use it.

Then cast a lot of AoE spells (which preferably ignore MR) and use your tanks.

Armen · 05-12-2006, 08:37 AM

this might be too obvious but you are ganging up on them one at a time yes?

Telepath · 05-12-2006, 09:16 AM

Well. I'm trying to gang up on them one at a time. Problem is my party is dead before they get in position to all do damage to one knight.

I'm using bless, chant, aid, protection from evil, negative plane protection, haste, summon fire elemental, summon invisible stalker, summon aerial servant, etc... They appear, boom all my magic is gone, boom I'm dead.

Would using the slayer form of the MC be any help?

Telepath · 05-12-2006, 09:24 AM

Oh, I have another question. Are demon knights undead? Would they be damaged by False Dawn/Sunray?

What do you think about the idea to summon animals I, place one on altar but just before placing on altar, casting Insect Swarm on the other one? That way it's in effect when the knights arrive.

Telepath · 05-12-2006, 09:54 AM

Ok, I managed to do it. It took six hours playing time lol.

I cast so many protections on my party members by the time I was done the first ones had begun to dissipate...

All my party members (except Edwin? lol he usually goes first) got killed, and I had to turn my measly MC cleric into the slayer to finish off the last one...

Thanks for all the tips tho

Xen · 05-12-2006, 11:21 AM

Why do you send Edwin into battle? I mean: he's a Mage. Well Conjurer to be more precise but that's not so important. What is important that you keep your spellcasters at the back of your party not in front. Let your tanks into the battle first - they're there to soak up the damage. Spellcasters should be at the back where there are safe and can easily cast spells without being interrupted. Also, cast your protective spells before a battle not during it if you can. You can move the portraits up and down. So if you put your Cleric's portrait on the end of the portrait line he will be the last one in the party for example. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 05-12-2006, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Telepath · 05-12-2006, 02:01 PM

Well, I didn't "send Edwin into battle". He was just the last one standing

And it's often hard to keep him out of the way in battles.

05-12-2006, 12:26 AM	#3
Balintherlas Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 22, 2003 Location: Ohio, Go Tribe Age: 37 Posts: 1,131	Your gonna wanna summon as many powerful monsters as u can, which is 5, cast negative plain protection on as many party member u can, then just cast the basic buff spells. After that, position your members who r the best fighters and keep your clerics and mages away from the battle. Thats prolly the best basic strategy and should work. __________________ Veni, Vidi, Vici

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05-11-2006, 10:33 PM	#1
Telepath Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 4, 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 39	I am in need of assistance I want to kill the Demon Knights in the Kuo-Toa (sp?) dungeon in Underdark. They are hard. Very hard. I die in like two, three rounds. It's not like I've got a crappy team, either... I've spent a good while playing to get here. Main character 2 million XP. Any tips? The "prince" was eminently easy without any tricks. The knights... well, I just die.

05-12-2006, 12:08 AM	#2
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	What strategies do you employ? Buffing? Disabling magic? Damage Dealing magic? Tell us your strategy, and we can critisize it and help you through this ordeal

05-12-2006, 06:55 AM	#4
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 8,554	Well truth to be told, there is no summoning limit. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Also I have another question: are these improved Demon Knights? Anyway here's what you should try to do. BUFF! Ston/Ironskins, PFMW, Free Action, Protection from Fire, Death Ward, Improved Haste ... anything that can protect you. Use it. Then cast a lot of AoE spells (which preferably ignore MR) and use your tanks.

05-12-2006, 08:37 AM	#5
Armen Symbol of Cyric Join Date: February 11, 2003 Location: UK Age: 54 Posts: 1,375	this might be too obvious but you are ganging up on them one at a time yes?

05-12-2006, 09:16 AM	#6
Telepath Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 4, 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 39	Well. I'm trying to gang up on them one at a time. Problem is my party is dead before they get in position to all do damage to one knight. I'm using bless, chant, aid, protection from evil, negative plane protection, haste, summon fire elemental, summon invisible stalker, summon aerial servant, etc... They appear, boom all my magic is gone, boom I'm dead. Would using the slayer form of the MC be any help?

05-12-2006, 09:24 AM	#7
Telepath Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 4, 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 39	Oh, I have another question. Are demon knights undead? Would they be damaged by False Dawn/Sunray? What do you think about the idea to summon animals I, place one on altar but just before placing on altar, casting Insect Swarm on the other one? That way it's in effect when the knights arrive.

05-12-2006, 09:54 AM	#8
Telepath Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 4, 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 39	Ok, I managed to do it. It took six hours playing time lol. I cast so many protections on my party members by the time I was done the first ones had begun to dissipate... All my party members (except Edwin? lol he usually goes first) got killed, and I had to turn my measly MC cleric into the slayer to finish off the last one... Thanks for all the tips tho

05-12-2006, 11:21 AM	#9
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 8,554	Why do you send Edwin into battle? I mean: he's a Mage. Well Conjurer to be more precise but that's not so important. What is important that you keep your spellcasters at the back of your party not in front. Let your tanks into the battle first - they're there to soak up the damage. Spellcasters should be at the back where there are safe and can easily cast spells without being interrupted. Also, cast your protective spells before a battle not during it if you can. You can move the portraits up and down. So if you put your Cleric's portrait on the end of the portrait line he will be the last one in the party for example. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 05-12-2006, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

05-12-2006, 02:01 PM	#10
Telepath Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 4, 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 39	Well, I didn't "send Edwin into battle". He was just the last one standing And it's often hard to keep him out of the way in battles.

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