To Kill An American

[WOLFGIR]

Hey don´t forget the crazy Scandinavians out there as well!

And remember guys...

It´s nice to be important but more important to be nice!

[Melusine]

K T Ong... you do know that Yorick is an Aussie, don't you....?

Edit: but it's a good point you made. If Yorick says "it doesn't apply to all humanity", then neither does it to all Americans.

[ 07-04-2002, 05:28 AM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

[WillowIX]

Posted by johnny: It was on a documentaire in the Netherlands, it freaked me out too, since there's only 16 million of us here. That would mean there's more people with Dutch roots overthere than we have here.

LOL, I think that´s true about all decsendants here in North America. More people with English roots than people in Englland, more with French than in France etc.

[ 07-04-2002, 05:30 AM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

[K T Ong]

Originally posted by Melusine: K T Ong... you do know that Yorick is an Aussie, don't you....? Edit: but it's a good point you made. If Yorick says "it doesn't apply to all humanity", then neither does it to all Americans.

Yes, I do know he's an Aussie. But only now do I know that he's an Aussie who Loves America -- just as I'm a Singaporean who loves Chinese culture.

Glad you agree on a couple things I said, Melusine. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Yorick]

Originally posted by K T Ong: quote: See now the article is untrue and doesn't work. It doesn't apply to all humanity.

My friend Yorick:

Don't mean to put you down -- and I certainly have nothing against a healthy bit of patriotism, either (or I wouldn't be seeing my love of Chinese culture as a good thing) -- but if it doesn't apply to all humanity, at the same time neither does it apply to all Americans, does it? Do you think all Americans are generous, that all Americans welcome the best, etc? I for one wouldn't imagine that all Chinese are good Confucians -- lovely fantasy though it might be.

And don't mind if I ask: if this thread were instead to be about, say, the Chinese celebrating some major event in their country (say the reunification of Taiwan with China) and talking about their major achievements in history, would you be as ready to defend them and speak on their behalf? Would you?[/QUOTE]KT, where does it say "All Americans are this"? It's generally referring to the collective whole. Where it speaks about an individual, it's still speaking about the country and not making a statement of falicy, that all Americans are thus. The only instance of that is "an American is generous", but then clarifies with a statement of the collective action, not the individuals.

On religion alone, the world is far from being a place where you can worship as freely as in America.

[Melusine]

Originally posted by K T Ong: Yes, I do know he's an Aussie. But only now do I know that he's an Aussie who Loves America -- just as I'm a Singaporean who loves Chinese culture.

Ah well, can't deny that

But I'll stop raining on this parade now...

[K T Ong]

Originally posted by WOLFGIR: And remember guys... It´s nice to be important but more important to be nice!

Witty and sensible. Love it, WOLFGIR.

[Yorick]

Originally posted by K T Ong: Yes, I do know he's an Aussie. But only now do I know that he's an Aussie who Loves America -- just as I'm a Singaporean who loves Chinese culture. Glad you agree on a couple things I said, Melusine. [img]smile.gif[/img]

You've read too much into my statements. I am defending Americans right to celebrate patriotically their nationality and independence, on the day set aside to do so.

Besides the analogy is all wrong.

Me being an Australian who loves Celtic or British culture is akin to a Singaporean loving Chinese culture. The ancestral homeland of origin.

[johnny]

Originally posted by WillowIX: quote: Posted by johnny: It was on a documentaire in the Netherlands, it freaked me out too, since there's only 16 million of us here. That would mean there's more people with Dutch roots overthere than we have here.

LOL, I think that´s true about all decsendants here in North America. More people with English roots than people in Englland, more with French than in France etc.[/QUOTE]Yep, especially New York is a good example, Yorrrick should know this. All these places overthere with Dutch backgrounds, Harlem, Hampstead, Wall street, Brooklyn, etc. Especially Brooklyn (Breukelen)is typical, i work every friday in Breukelen, so i'm a little little little bit in New York every time !

[K T Ong]

To Yorick:
All right, then, sorry if I've misread you. Let's forgive and forget everything then, okay?