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Old 11-05-2002, 07:55 PM   #11
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Damn yankee...now there's something I haven't heard in...two months. Heh.
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Old 11-05-2002, 08:02 PM   #12
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Sir G, that's what he tells everyone. IT'S A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU! Actually he has lived here for a long time as was even Gov. Don't you have family members you want to hide and not admit to?
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Sir G, that's what he tells everyone. IT'S A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU! Actually he has lived here for a long time as was even Gov. Don't you have family members you want to hide and not admit to?
Actually yes [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 11-05-2002, 08:39 PM   #14
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if I were texas i would succede from the US, and then apply for foreign aid.

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Old 11-05-2002, 08:48 PM   #15
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LOL, this is like the time when they split up Springfield into Old Springfield and New Springfield on the Simpsons, just because of an extra area code. All of the rich people lived in New Springfield, and Homer and his buddies lived in Old Springfield. All they did was sit around and drink beer all day.
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Old 11-05-2002, 09:05 PM   #16
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Texas is unique as a state in that it was neither one of the original colonies that joined together to form the US nor was it aquired via purchase or war.
Is this so? Were Idaho or Illinois acquired via purchase or war. (BTW I know there were many more. Hawaii?)[/QUOTE]Idaho was part of the Louisanna(SP?) purchase, Illinois we won won during the revolution I'm not sure about Hawaii I believe it was acquired through a treaty. Vermont and Texas were both Independent Countries before they joined the Union. I don't beleive Texas ever signed the surrender of the U.S. Civil war, I could be wrong on that my Old Fart's memory being what it is . So in essance Texas is still indepenent and at a state of war with the U.S.A. How's that for monkey wrench in the works
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Old 11-05-2002, 09:28 PM   #17
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No, what would be the point? Not too much to gain if Texas did that. And for the record, no Bush is not a native Texan, he moved here when he was 3 I think and grew up in Midland.

Edit: John D. It was actually N. (or S. ?) Carolina that never surrendered to the Union

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Old 11-05-2002, 09:29 PM   #18
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You are correct Donut. Some areas were just part of American expansion into areas that no other country claimed. {Since the Indian tribes living there already possessed no valid claim.} I believe that at least part of Idaho was acquired in the Louisiana purchase. The Spanish American War also played a part.
Were Idaho and Iowa not part of the Louisiana purchase? I havent looked at the map of that in a long time....time to go searching on the web [img]smile.gif[/img]
 
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Texas is unique as a state in that it was neither one of the original colonies that joined together to form the US nor was it aquired via purchase or war.
Is this so? Were Idaho or Illinois acquired via purchase or war. (BTW I know there were many more. Hawaii?)[/QUOTE]I found this on the web.

Thirteen states or parts of states have been carved from The Louisiana Purchase Territory. They are as follows: Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, lowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Colorado and Montana.


In my history class last week we covered the purchase of Idaho and Washington, and I found in my notes that we bought those from the British as part of a deal to give the British help if a feared Russian threat emerged in Canada...or some such. Im still researching.
 
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No, what would be the point? Not too much to gain if Texas did that. And for the record, no Bush is not a native Texan, he moved here when he was 3 I think and grew up in Midland.

Edit: John D. It was actually N. (or S. ?) Carolina that never surrendered to the Union
Are you sure about that? Sherman did a number on S. Carolina in his march to the sea, along with what he did to Georgia, and I thunked he turned north. (note to self re-read Civil war books, nay, I'm to old I'll just watch the discovery channel )
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