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Old 05-02-2011, 08:44 PM   #61
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Yea yea I know, though SEAL Team 6 sounds better than Devgru. So they went with 6. I do kind of wonder though, is OBL dead? Or did we just say he is? We could waterboard that asshole for decades if he is "dead".
A test of the waters so to say? That would be a lot to risk.


This administration would not waterboard a four legged rat, much less the two legged version!
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:47 PM   #62
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Seriously?

Imagine the resources required to build a shrine, and a pathway to that shrine. Not to mention the recorded time and location of casket overboard has not yet been released. Thou at the way things are going, it might spill out soon.

Hopefully they really just chucked him out of a helicopter wherever. EDIT- Because it would be fun
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:24 PM   #63
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Pyrrhus victory anyone? For a decade this guy hasnt had any influence on global terrorism, how could he? he was in hiding, dodging entire armies trying to track him down, and he was quite good at it too, you gotta hand him that. Seeing all these cheering people on the news, i wonder if they honestly think that islamic terrorism has ended with the death of just one man? Because the way i see it, things are only gonna get worse from here on, others will take his place, if they alreday haven't, because once again...this guy was nothing more than a symbol, a retired glorified thug. If they would have killed him 5 or 6 years ago it would have sorted real effect, but now.... i doubt this will change anything at all.

Don't get me wrong, i'm glad that pig is dead, but i see no reason to celebrate it like it's something huge either, it's too late for that, Bin laden was just a name, obsolete, and it's just a matter of time before somewhere on this planet al qaeda strikes again.

On top of that, i'd like to see the footage of his actual death, or at least proof of his demise, because i don't understand why public enemy number one would be tossed into the ocean just like that before at least showing the world he is truly no longer among the living, kinda like what happened to Saddam. Until then i remain a bit sceptic about this whole story. If he's dead...awesome sauce....but i'd like to see it with my own eyes first please, and so would the rest of the world. We have been fooled by politicians one time too many to blindly swallow anything they throw at us.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:32 PM   #64
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Pyrrhus victory anyone? For a decade this guy hasnt had any influence on global terrorism, how could he? he was in hiding, dodging entire armies trying to track him down, and he was quite good at it too, you gotta hand him that. Seeing all these cheering people on the news, i wonder if they honestly think that islamic terrorism has ended with the death of just one man? Because the way i see it, things are only gonna get worse from here on, others will take his place, if they alreday haven't, because once again...this guy was nothing more than a symbol, a retired glorified thug. If they would have killed him 5 or 6 years ago it would have sorted real effect, but now.... i doubt this will change anything at all.

Don't get me wrong, i'm glad that pig is dead, but i see no reason to celebrate it like it's something huge either, it's too late for that, Bin laden was just a name, obsolete, and it's just a matter of time before somewhere on this planet al qaeda strikes again.

On top of that, i'd like to see the footage of his actual death, or at least proof of his demise, because i don't understand why public enemy number one would be tossed into the ocean just like that before at least showing the world he is truly no longer among the living, kinda like what happened to Saddam. Until then i remain a bit sceptic about this whole story. If he's dead...awesome sauce....but i'd like to see it with my own eyes first please, and so would the rest of the world. We have been fooled by politicians one time too many to blindly swallow anything they throw at us.
Thank you Johnny, bar keep get the man a beer!

The only caveat I would say: There are too many spineless politicians currently in office, and not less than 3 would be running like his arse is on fire and his hair is catching, screaming foul.

So yea'll, it's for real!
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:10 PM   #65
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I agree with Johnny about the whole Phyrric victory thing. I don't doubt he's dead, and I understand the reasons for disposing of the body quickly and in a way that will keep one his "worshipers" from establishing some new holy shrine -- though they probably will anyway.

But, yeah, it feels like we went a raided Tempest Keep at 85 and someone got a phoenix mount. Um... yay?
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:24 PM   #66
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Yea yea I know, though SEAL Team 6 sounds better than Devgru. So they went with 6. I do kind of wonder though, is OBL dead? Or did we just say he is? We could waterboard that asshole for decades if he is "dead".
Maybe some of our US military folks here can share some of the differences between the SEALs, the Green Berets, and the Rangers. Why did they pick the SEALs for this if it was a land op? Are the SEALs the best of the US special forces?
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:47 PM   #67
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Maybe some of our US military folks here can share some of the differences between the SEALs, the Green Berets, and the Rangers. Why did they pick the SEALs for this if it was a land op? Are the SEALs the best of the US special forces?
In a nutshell. They are all similar, use similar equipment, and have similar yet different missions.

Green Berets have moved deeper into A&A units, and there are more B-Teams involved in that than A-Teams.

Sea Air Land = SEALS. In your face death.

USAF Para-rescue those cool commercials? Yea, that's what they do.

Marines formed MARSOC recently, I have no intel on their missions. Formerly could go SEAL, or Marine Recon which hosted the Marine sniper school.

All the rest are operational units to include the 3 Ranger Batts, however, the 75th is a USASOC unit, but still a unit within rank and file lineage.

Here is a link for you. It might give you a security warning.

http://www.socom.mil/SOCOMHome/Pages/default.aspx
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:03 PM   #68
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Give credit where due, yes. However, the media has a way of not presenting accurate facts. The CIA did not shoot OBL, Special Forces did. Later today I'm sure there will be more to follow, and some gruesome images. My inner circle claims more that 1 bullet was used...

Yeah, it was Seals (JSOC). Media got a LOT of it bas-akwards...

Two shots to the left of the head, and in stomach (or so it says currently). Hope it wasn't an AR, or that pic will be nasty.. 45 maybe? Somehow I doubt it.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:10 PM   #69
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But, yeah, it feels like we went a raided Tempest Keep at 85 and someone got a phoenix mount. Um... yay?
This analogy is my favourite.

I agree, and Johnny, excellent summary
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:42 PM   #70
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Saw this on face book:
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Let's be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did. Obama just happened to be the one in office when our soldiers finally found OBL and took him out. This is NOT an Obama victory, but an AMERICAN victory!! REPOST IF YOU AGREE
Just a reality check!
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