Visit the Ironworks Gaming Website Email the Webmaster Graphics Library Rules and Regulations Help Support Ironworks Forum with a Donation to Keep us Online - We rely totally on Donations from members Donation goal Meter

Ironworks Gaming Radio

Ironworks Gaming Forum

Go Back   Ironworks Gaming Forum > Ironworks Gaming Forums > General Discussion > General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005)

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-29-2004, 11:08 AM   #11
Harkoliar
Jack Burton
 

Join Date: March 21, 2001
Location: Philippines, but now Harbor City Sydney
Age: 40
Posts: 5,556
there are idiots and there are IDIOTS!
__________________

Catch me if you can..
Harkoliar is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 11:22 AM   #12
Dron_Cah
Horus - Egyptian Sky God
 
Defend Your Castle Champion Frogger Champion Monkey Diving Champion Summer Games Champion Donkey Kong Champion
Moon Lander Champion Space Invaders Champion
Join Date: March 2, 2003
Location: Kentucky
Age: 37
Posts: 2,637
That poor child! The kid will certainly have hearing problems from those jackhammers!!! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Dron_Cah is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 11:31 AM   #13
Stratos
Vampire
 

Join Date: January 29, 2003
Location: Sweden
Age: 43
Posts: 3,888
This is what can happen to children if their mothers smoke while carrying them.

WARNING! Strong pictures!
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*




j/k

[ 10-29-2004, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: Stratos ]
__________________
Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.
Stratos is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 11:39 AM   #14
Gangrell
Iron Throne Cult
 

Join Date: January 2, 2003
Location: Big Castle in the Sky
Age: 36
Posts: 4,835
Ah, seems like ignorance is infectious.

Is it me or does the woman seem to be involved in some deep thinking in that picture?
Gangrell is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 01:59 PM   #15
Stormymystic
Knight of the Rose
 

Join Date: April 8, 2003
Location: Arkansas
Age: 48
Posts: 4,442
Quote:
Originally posted by Larry_OHF:
quote:
Originally posted by Stormymystic:
actually the only proven effect smoking has on an unborn child is low birth weight. I am not saying it is right, so do not get on my case about it. but I did smoke with all three of my kids not because I was a bad mother or anything like that, but because it is an addiction, if any of you have ever been addicted to anything you will understand. yes smoking harms people. we all know this, but it is not easy to stop.
It is sad to read what you just said. My mom quit cold the minute she discovered she was carrying me. Therefore, addictions can be overcome providing the proper incintive.

Also, low birth weight is not the "only" negative outcome. Low birth weight can contribute to other health problems after birth. Also, since you brought up the mention of "addiction", did you not think that the nicotine would also affect the baby in the same way? Therefore, your newborns must have suffered withdrawls from the drug, just like any other type of drug. The placenta is a very good natural barrier for many toxins and pollutions that could harm a baby, but the placenta does not stop drugs. That is why women who are pregnant cannot take any medications during the first trimester, and are limited to just Tylenol during the remainder of the pregnancy, unless consulted by a doctor.

Please do not ever let on to anyone that such behavior is even remotely acceptable.

I apologize for the rant. You hit a sensitive nerve.
[/QUOTE]I am not saying what I did was right, and with the last one I went to ultra lights, and stopped smoking as much as I did. but there was also a something my doctor told me. due to my manic depressive ways, and all of the stress I was already going through, the last thing he felt I should do is try and quit smoking. it would put more stess on me and the babies, and possibly cause even more problems for the pregnancy. if I could change anything, it would be that I never started smoking in the first place. and do not tell me to try the patch...tried that and that is when we found out I am allergic to adhesive.
__________________
[url]\"http://stormymystic.deviantart.com/gallery/\" target=\"_blank\"> [img]\"http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3968/stormyvx6.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /></a>
Stormymystic is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 02:28 PM   #16
Luvian
Ironworks Moderator
 

Join Date: June 27, 2001
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Age: 42
Posts: 6,763
My mother quit without any patches or anything. She just decided to stop and she did.
__________________
Once upon a time in Canada...
Luvian is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 02:52 PM   #17
Sir Kenyth
Fzoul Chembryl
 

Join Date: August 30, 2001
Location: somewhere
Age: 54
Posts: 1,785
It should be noted that the worst risks of smoking (lung related diseases and cancer due to smoke irritation) are not experienced by the unborn child as smoke is not coming into contact with it's airways.

Routine exposure to nicotine, a potent stimulant, is the problem. Being a potent stimulant, it can interfere with the endocrine system and thus can affect growth. Because children are growing so quickly, they are especially sensitive to hormone fluctuations. Stimulants simulate or stimulate the production of stress hormones like adrenaline and cortisol. Stress hormones are catabolic and counteract growth hormones, which are anabolic. As was previously said, routine stress can be almost as bad. Stress can be defined as anything that causes the fight/flight response to kick in and stimulate the release of adrenaline and cortisol.

Stress hormones are very useful in animals who must work hard for their food and to whom each calorie is precious. It ensures that as long as an animal is in danger, it will be using all available resources for the energy to run or fight or storing them as fat for near future use. None are spared for growth and prolonged stress hormone levels can actually reduce muscle tissue mass. As people, we no longer live under the same evolutionary pressures that formed our body responses, which is why the way our bodies do things somtimes seems strange.

[ 10-29-2004, 02:55 PM: Message edited by: Sir Kenyth ]
__________________
Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.
Sir Kenyth is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 03:56 PM   #18
Xen
Symbol of Moradin
 

Join Date: June 5, 2002
Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana
Age: 36
Posts: 8,554
Well my mom smoked (still does, but I am living with my father now) when I wasn't born and I sufferd consequences at birth. When I was little I couldn't breathe without the breathing machine but then after a few moinths it was O.K.
Xen is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 04:09 PM   #19
Sir Kenyth
Fzoul Chembryl
 

Join Date: August 30, 2001
Location: somewhere
Age: 54
Posts: 1,785
That certainly can be attributed to your mother smoking Xen. Low birth weight, premature birth, and underdevelopment are all related risks that are made much worse by regular/heavy smoking by the pregnant mother.
__________________
Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.
Sir Kenyth is offline  
Old 10-29-2004, 06:40 PM   #20
Stratos
Vampire
 

Join Date: January 29, 2003
Location: Sweden
Age: 43
Posts: 3,888
Hey, haven't this picture been on Jay Leno?
__________________
Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.
Stratos is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Stupid Freaking Virus and Even More Stupid McAfee! Larry_OHF General Discussion 23 11-20-2006 12:49 PM
Ask a stupid question - get a stupid answer BG Saga Style!!! D*Ranged Baldurs Gate II: Shadows of Amn & Throne of Bhaal 28 02-08-2004 02:48 AM
STUPID, STUPID QUESTION. LordKathen Icewind Dale | Heart of Winter | Icewind Dale II Forum 3 09-03-2003 12:41 AM
Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer. Triconan General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005) 97 11-11-2002 10:36 PM
Stupid question from an equally stupid poster... How do you...? Patty Baldurs Gate II Archives 1 11-11-2001 09:47 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2024 Ironworks Gaming & ©2024 The Great Escape Studios TM - All Rights Reserved