03-10-2001, 03:46 PM | #31 | |
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Yup, it was JJ's idea and when he gets home tonight, he's going to have a lot to answer here! (demi-undead status is gone, JJ- stormsylph wants her sonnet!-but any poetic apology will suffice! heehee ) And BK, you may well be right regarding Hilary's 'affairs' but she didn't abuse her position and it wasn't headline news, so we aren't really sure, are we? At any rate, I don't think Clinton was all bad as a president, either, but then not the best by a long shot. You know, I'm not sure how I ended up in this 'political soup'. It's not usually my cup of tea. hahahahaha MetaphoricalCloud ------------------ Storm-Queen Purple Rose of the Black Knight |
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03-10-2001, 03:55 PM | #33 |
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BK, I really think this is a typical difference of opinion between American and French people - we in France tend to consider our Presidents as more 'human' if we happen to find out that he has affairs, like Francois Mitterrand did.
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I'm not saying that a President (or anyone for that matter) isn't going to make mistakes in business or personal life, what have you. It is how you accept what happens and deal with it that shows your character. Lying, trying to cover it up, and refusing to admit what happened, especially in lieu of overwhelming evidence. Mr. Clinton has lied in court, lied to the American people, then lied about lying to us.
If he just would have said, listen, I have a problem, HRC and I are trying to work on it, but I slip from time to time. I need your support, I am trying to work my way past this in my personal life, and I want you, the people, to know that this will NOT interfere with me being the President. Thank you. I guess I just wanted him to show good character. He didn't. He tried to cover what he did up, and ended up dragging the Presidency through the mud, as well as the American people And lets not even get into his, I-need-a-legacy-quick-someone-give-me-some-people-to-pardon-I-don't-care-who policy. BK |
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One could argue that Clinton lied to you about a private matter that should have concerned only him and his wife - that he shouldn't have been publicly accused of cheating on his wife, at the first place. Why, no other citizen gets prosecuted for such a thing !
Mind, I don't want to fight with you on that matter - I only express my opinion, which is shared by most French people, is all. Let's stop this here and smile on it, OK ? ------------------ |
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CB, Moraine - Relax, it wasn't a joke but you read WAY too deep on that one. I was comparing Mrs. B to Mrs. C. I hold most women who've attained positions of power (especially in male dominated fields like politics) in high regard and have tons of respect for the work they had to do to get there. I simply find HRC vastly distasteful. She choose to put her political asperations before not only the good of her family but her country as well. IMHO, she's given the very women you defended a bad name. Her and her hubby have given marraige a bad name. Yes, I hold them partially to blame for the fact that my bank now assumes that husbands and wives don't trust each other. (Tried to cash my husband's check, we had both signed it, I was at our bank with plenty of cash in our account but I was told no because they couldn't be sure he had signed it...what the hell is that?? Time for a new bank) So, no, I cannot find it in my heart to think of HRC as normal. And just for the record, CB, you have such passion on the subject of professional women, how do you feel about those of us who choose a higher, grander calling - the raising of our own children?
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Zenith, As a matter of fact, I have much respect and admiration for them. (I might say that I don't consider either option a "higher calling" though. Just different roads to walk!)
I have a very dear friend who decided to stay home and raise her family after college, rather than work. It was a conscious choice to make her family life better and to raise her children in a way she felt was best. She and I are very close and I support the idea of a parent (either one!) staying home with the children when it is financially possible, as was her situation. Things worked out differently for me, but had I the choice- I'd have taken both. CB ------------------ Storm-Queen Purple Rose of the Black Knight |
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