06-10-2003, 10:39 AM | #41 | |
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06-10-2003, 10:47 AM | #42 |
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Well I heard from somewhere a while ago ( Sorry I don't have the source, it was a TV show) that some researchers had pondered and tried to figure out why Americans seemed to be, or at least act, more patriotic than most other western democracies. The answer they gave was this:
The US consist of 180 or so different groups. These included religious, political and ethnic groups. Many of these have different values that may be in conflict with those of another group, and to counter this Americans would need a common ground, something to unite them ( or you if you're an American) as a people. Otherwise there would be a risk, albeit a small one, that the US would fall apart. So all the patriotic stuff that may seem a bit silly to non-Americans is instead essential for USA. Supposedly this is something that's more subconscious than anything else.
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06-10-2003, 10:52 AM | #43 | |
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06-10-2003, 10:55 AM | #44 | |
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I would very much like to see an example of me rushing to the defence of the crown! The very thought makes me chuckle. [/QUOTE] Having been completely and totally educated on exactly what Donut thinks of the crown, I have to agree with him here...can't recall ever seeing him post anything patriotic. Only a quick trigger to correct misconseptions...such as my thinking that because British Naval personnel seem to take the Crown seriously, that it would also be that way for other british people. |
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I for one, would rush to the defence of the crown in an instant! Shame Donut, shame!
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06-10-2003, 11:23 AM | #48 | |
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06-10-2003, 11:24 AM | #49 | |
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Most people are moral. Persons in the Administration are people. Therefore, few people in the Administration are moral. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] Maybe they're just Master Moralists rather than Slave Moralists. Morality is subjective on many levels. The first world is generally Slave Morality-based. Not necessarily a GoodThing(tm). Is it truly better to be Dionysian in our moral code rather than Appollonian? Sorry if I just hauled out too much Nietszche for the group. |
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06-10-2003, 11:48 AM | #50 | |
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Most people are moral. Persons in the Administration are people. Therefore, few people in the Administration are moral. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] Maybe they're just Master Moralists rather than Slave Moralists. Morality is subjective on many levels. The first world is generally Slave Morality-based. Not necessarily a GoodThing(tm). Is it truly better to be Dionysian in our moral code rather than Appollonian? Sorry if I just hauled out too much Nietszche for the group. [/QUOTE]Sorry TL, but I thought the last administration (Clinton) lacked morals or even moral guidence. However, I still think most people are moral, just not many in politics. Nor do I think people must be religous to have morals, but I find religion tends to give moral guidence. At least most do. That's what I meant. Now after castigating Clinton and his administration, let me point out that Bush hasn't completed his term and still has many opportuniies ahead to take the wrong path. Would I be shocked? Not really politics being what it is; a corruptor of man. What was it said about power and all that? BTW, you need to pull a Dobby and beat yourself about the head and ears for bring out all that Nietszche stuff. Makes my head hurt. :
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