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Old 03-07-2002, 08:58 PM   #1
Wolfie
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Ever asked yourself this? Well, I might just have worked this out!

First of all, here's a listing of what professions, use what spell book:

Wizardry: Pure - Mage, Bishop & Hybrid - Samurai
Alchemy: Pure - Alchemist, Bishop & Hybrid - Ranger, Ninja
Psionic: Pure - Psionic, Bishopn & Hybrid - Monk
Divinity: Pure - Priest, Bishop & Hybrid - Lord, Valkyrie

And to qualify for a spell level, you have to reach the following character level:

Spell Level 1 - Character Level 1
Spell Level 2 - Character Level 3
Spell Level 3 - Character Level 5
Spell Level 4 - Character Level 8
Spell Level 5 - Character Level 11
Spell Level 6 - Character Level 14
Spell Level 7 - Character Level 18

With hybrid spellcasters needing 4 more character levels than pure spellcasters.

This is all explained here if you're wondering where this info came from.


Ok, now on to the theory;

(1) Let's take a level 20 Bishop, that started as a Mage for the first 10 levels

Wiz: 10 Mage + 10 Bishop = 20, therefore Spell Lvl 7 avail
Alc: 10 Bishop = 10, therefore Spell Lvl 4 avail
Psi: 10 Bishop = 10, therefore Spell Lvl 4 avail
Div: 10 Bishop = 10, therefore Spell Lvl 4 avail

Simple so far.

(2) Same level 20 Bishop, but this time started as a Samurai for the first 10 levels

Wiz: (10-4) Samuari + 10 Bishop = 16, therefore Spell Lvl 6 avail
Alc: 10 Bishop = 10, therefore Spell Lvl 4 avail
Psi: 10 Bishop = 10, therefore Spell Lvl 4 avail
Div: 10 Bishop = 10, therefore Spell Lvl 4 avail


(3) This time let's really mix it up, a level 30 Ranger, that started as an Alchemist for the first 10 levels, then a Lord for the next 10 levels, and finally was a Ranger for the remaining 10 (and probably needing job councelling by now)

Wiz: No Wizardry-using professions, therefore no Spell Lvl avail
Alc: 10 Alchemist + (10-4) Ranger = 16, therefore Spell Lvl 6 avail
Psi: No Psionic-using professions, therefore no Spell Lvl avail
Div: (10-4) Lord = 6, therefore Spell Lvl 3 avail

It doesn't matter whether the character changes from one profession to another and then back again, the levels for any one profession accumulate. Which solves the concerns RuPaul raised.


Now for the fun part!!! I've created a small spreadsheet that uses this theory, what I want to do is get everyone to test it (see if I works for everyone). If you go to http://wiz8.web1000.com/NextVersion.html you can download this file and try it out. Then if you e-mail the filled-in file to me (wizardry8@mail.com), I'll keep a tally of how many worked or not.

If all goes well, this can then be added into the now famed Wiz8SpellAbility spreadsheet (see signature below).

TIA
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Old 03-07-2002, 09:44 PM   #2
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Wait a minute... OK... wait a minute...alright.. I 've got my slideruler now... OK.. what was that figure again...oh yes... yes.. yeeeeees.. I see... yeah right....uh huh.. oh yeah.. oh yeeeeeeah...take the Bishop.. make it a Wiz.. I mean Lord.. then put the mojo on him/her and go with the Samarai.. I git you.. yeah..bring it on baby.. Nessie ain't got nuttin' on me now.. The Don is on the business end.. I'm there.. I"M THERE!!!!!!!


(No personal shot intended, just have to have fun with it sometimes)

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Old 03-07-2002, 09:54 PM   #3
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If you think what you see here is bad, you _really_ don't want to know about the formulae used in the spell availablity calculations!

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