Are these puzzles dumb?

[Davros]

Well I beg to differ with most of the comments :

I thought it was a reasonably logical puzzle - 4 switches with up / down = 16 combinations (ie 2*2*2*2=16). 6 doors, so 6 combinations work and 10 combinations fail. I already had 13 serpin coins when I started, and priests kept bobbing up, so I never ran out of coins. The logical part was in working out that there were reasonably few combinations, so the correct approach was to write out the 16 combos and methodically work through them. Maybe only my opinion (hey I think like the engineer that I am), but I didn't see anything trial and error about the whole thing - logical and methodical .


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[alz]

Any puzzle you can't figure out, probably leads back to DWB. From day one the crypt puzzles were, well... cryptic! Made no sense. No clues or anything. And the crypt was suppse to be the easy level. Atleast my Shrine light-shaft puzzle still made it into the game

The crypt was originally TWICE the size it is now. There was this whole other section to the far east that was a catacomb of sorts which ended in this huge vaulted (church like) room. The original crypt was very old-school DOS mazes, but 3D.

[Traute]

Originally posted by alz: The crypt was originally TWICE the size it is now. There was this whole other section to the far east that was a catacomb of sorts which ended in this huge vaulted (church like) room. The original crypt was very old-school DOS mazes, but 3D.

Then that must be why there is a button left in one of the rooms near the jindols rooms that doesn't open anything. Two buttons that are hidden behind chests open secret room, the third one doesn't seem to do anything.

Traute

[Sazerac]

Originally posted by alz: Any puzzle you can't figure out, probably leads back to DWB. From day one the crypt puzzles were, well... cryptic! Made no sense. No clues or anything. And the crypt was suppse to be the easy level. Atleast my Shrine light-shaft puzzle still made it into the game

Right...like in Wizardry 7 (another of Bradley's creations) where you were obviously supposed to "mindread" to be able to figure out that you had to use the Dragon Map on the Gaelin Stone in the Hall of Gorrors to be able to proceed any FURTHER in the game (mind you, this was 7/8 of the way through the entire game)...nary a clue ANYWHERE! Oh, yeah, THAT was intuitive!

-Sazerac

[Sazerac]

Originally posted by Davros: Well I beg to differ with most of the comments : I thought it was a reasonably logical puzzle - 4 switches with up / down = 16 combinations (ie 2*2*2*2=16). 6 doors, so 6 combinations work and 10 combinations fail.

DAVROS....

as you said, you're an engineer! Puh-lease!!!! Not all of us have silicon or positronic brains!

(just kidding!)

-Sazerac

[Davros]

Hmmm,

Davr logically and methodically examines Saz's last post for humour - yup, there it is - takes us engineers a bit longer I suppose

Cheers
Davros

[Black Knight]

Originally posted by Davros: Well I beg to differ with most of the comments : I thought it was a reasonably logical puzzle - 4 switches with up / down = 16 combinations (ie 2*2*2*2=16). 6 doors, so 6 combinations work and 10 combinations fail. I already had 13 serpin coins when I started, and priests kept bobbing up, so I never ran out of coins. The logical part was in working out that there were reasonably few combinations, so the correct approach was to write out the 16 combos and methodically work through them. Maybe only my opinion (hey I think like the engineer that I am), but I didn't see anything trial and error about the whole thing - logical and methodical .

Actually, Dav, it's 15:
1. 1
2. 2
3. 3
4. 4
5. 12
6. 13
7. 14
8. 23
9. 24
10. 34
11. 123
12. 124
13. 134
14. 234
15. 1234

There is always the null set, but come on, did you really expect it to work NOT flipping the switchs? I did agree that it was somewhat logical, but I would have appreciated a little clue ... Plus, I wanted to save some of those coins for the Ninja...

BK

[Davros]

Come on BK, 15 plus the null set is 16 in my book (or it was when I went to school). You're right that you wouldn't expect the null set to work, but until you put a serpin coin in, who really knows for sure

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[Jafin]

That puzzle and the one in Shurugeon Castle where you have to pull the chains down are horrible. I hated them both.

Despite the limited number of combinations, the ones used are random. Meaning, if one of the combinations worked one time through the game the next time it might not. My combinations didn't work from my last time through, not all of them at least.

-Jafin