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Old 02-08-2005, 05:57 PM   #71
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When it boils down to it, if I lost the plot with some nameless American (think outside the IW box - this is hypothetical) and labelled them as "redneck scum", how much more offensive would it be if I labelled him as "American redneck scum".
"Hale" Dav I'd love it! If'n I got's folks thunkin' that I got'em r-at where's I's wants 'em. I'd say let the funnin' begin. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Old 02-08-2005, 06:01 PM   #72
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Morg, I wouldn't put a whole lot of Credence(sp?) to that, the objectives maybe, the results noway in "HALE". Make no mistake one day the USA will fall as did Rome, Greece, Egypt and all others before us. But the day the dark ages start anew, and this puppy(the USA) comes apart from outside forces, it will not be with a whimper but with a bang. When it does, the ACLU, and Constitution will be of NO help to anybody. Real and imagined scores will be settled. There will be weepin' and gnashing of teeth, the likes of which haven't been seen since the Plauges hit Egypt. No place on this earth will be immune, industries the world over will fail, city stereets will run red with the blood of their inhabitants fighting over the last twinkies and Ho-ho's. What the "Hale" are the Islamofascists going to do, load their tanks up on ships and invade the Americas? They don't make any tanks, guns, artilary, etc. they buy them from others that have industries. Those industries will have gone the way of the dinosaurs, as will the industries that build the pieces parts to keep things going. What are they (Islamofascists) going to do cross the ocean in their reed sailing ships? Those of us that surive will be making man of wars out of sturdy oak to slice the papyrus ships far out to sea. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:37 PM   #73
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I thought one of the reasons the religious ban/ country-bashing was in place was to discourage people from slandering religions/Nations on the whole due to the interpretations/actions of a few.


For example sake let's imagine that Christianity was refered to as a "Barbaric death cult" or the Bible as "bile and vomit" and it's preachers were expelling this out of "their own mouths" That wouldn't last any longer around here than "American Redneck scum" would.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:50 PM   #74
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I was born and raised as Muslim. My whole family is still Muslim. I know every genetic code of Muslim. I know Islamic brain. I live and breath with them. I am an insider. I left Islam when I understood that Islam is a sick and evil religion. Following are the Islamic message to the West.

To the infidels of the West:

Constitution for the new Islamic Republic of EU and USA is under construction.

We will fight the infidel to death.

Meanwhile American laws will protect us.

Democrats and Leftist will support us.

UNO will legitimize us.

CAIR will incubate us.

ACLU will empower us.

Western Universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us

OPEC will finance us

Hollywood will love us.

Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.

Our children will immigrate from Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Indonesia and even from India to the US and to the other Western countries. They will go to the West for education in full scholarship. America is paying and will continue to pay for our children’s educations and their upbringing in state funded Islamic schools.

We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad.

We will take the advantage of American kindness, gullibility, and compassion. When time comes, we will stab them in the back. We will say one thing on the camera and teach another thing to our children at home. We will give subliminal messages to our children to uphold Islam at any cost. Our children in America will always care more about Islamic Country’s interest than US interest.

We will teach our children Islamic supremacy from the very childhood. We will teach them not to compromise with Infidel. Once we do that from the very early age our children won’t hesitate to be martyr. We will take over the Europe first and then US will be the next. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Germany, and now in the US.

Our children will marry Caucasian in Europe and in America. We will mixed with intricate fabric of the Western society but still will remember to Jihad when time comes. Who are we?

We are the “sleeper cells”.

We will raise our children to be loyal to Islam and Mohammad only. Everything else is secondary.

At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our armor. When American or Israeli troops shoot at us the world will be watching. Imagine,… Imagine the news in the world “Death of Muslim babies by infidels”.

We know CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. Al-Jazeera will pour gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wildfire. “Americans killed 6 babies, 10 babies”. “Jews killed two women”,

Keep your Nukes in your curio cabinets. Keep your aircraft carrier or hightech weaponery in the showcase. You can't use them against us because of your own higher moral standard. We will take the advantage of your higher moral standard and use it against you. We won’t hesitate to use our children as suicide bomber against you.

Visualize the news flash all over the world, …Moslem mother is sobbing, ….crying. ….Her babies are killed by Jews and Americans, the whole world is watching live. Hundreds of millions of Muslims all around the world are boiling. They will march through Europe. We will use our women to produce more babies who will in turn be used as armor/shield. Our babies are the gift from Allah for Jihad.

West manufactures their tanks in the factory. We will manufacture our military force by natural means, by producing more babies. That is the way it is cheaper.

You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us?

On the camera:

We will always say, “Islam is the religion of Peace.”

We will say, “Jihad is actually inner Jihad.”

Moderate Muslim will say there is no link between Islam and Terrorism and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible.

Moderate Muslim all over the world will incubate Jihadist by their talk by defending Islam.

Using Western Legal system we will assert our Sharia Laws, slowly but surely.

We will increase in number. We will double again.

You will be impressed when you meet a moderate Muslim personally. As your next-door neighbor, coworker, student, teacher, engineer, professionals you may even like us. You will find us well mannered, polite, humble that will make you say, “wow, Muslims are good and peaceful people”, But, we will stab you in your back when you are sleeping as we did on 911.

There will be more 911 in Europe and in America. We will say, “We do not support terrorism but America got what it deserved.”

Muslims, CAIR, ISNA, MPAC and other international Islamic Organization will unite. We will partner with Leftist, ACLU, with Koffi Annan, and the UN, and if we have to then even with France. Fasten your seatbelt. The war of civilizations has just begun.

We will recite Quran and say Allah-Hu-Akbar before beheading infidels, as we have been doing it. We will video tape those and send it to all infidels to watch. They will surrender - ISLAM means surrender.

We will use your own values of kindness against you.

You are destined to loose.

Must be very depressing for you. Isn’t it?

Allah-Hu-Akbar

as we say just before beheading.

21st Century Islamic Warfare

Let's see the effectiveness of Islamic warfare.
Muslims Vs. the West.

THE RULE HAS CHANGED. There is new game in town.

Bill Clinton ordered 50 Tomahawks Cruise missiles costing $100,000,000 each to destroy $50 mud houses that belonged to Osama's family. What a stupidity? What a poor ROI (Return On Investment)

In return Osama's attack on the US.
Cost: 19 martyrs and less than $500,000.
Cost to the West: over 3,000 dead.

At least $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars economical loss in one year. This includes the ripple effect.

Osama's ROI with respect to: life = 3,000/19 = 158 fold.
Dollar = $1 tr./500K = 2,000,000 fold

That is modern warfare. The West will loose.

Allah-Hu-Akbar.
Islam will rule the world. There is nothing you can do. Even if the per capita GDP of the world drops to half of its present level as a consequence of Islamic laws in place all over the world but still Islam will rule the word.

From your point of view we bring to the world to the dark ages, so be it. But still Islam wins, West looses.

Are you sure you want to play this game?

Jihad, ..Jihad...Jeeehaaad...

You are destined to loose.

Allah-hu-Akbar

SOTT

[Sight of the Truth]

Saudi Arabia's $100 billion investment over the last 3 decades on over 60 thousands Madrassas and school all over the Islamic world is finally paying off. While the West was busy inventing medicine, increasing life expectancy, elevating human suffering, decoding human gene to find cure for Cancer, heart disease etc, launching space shuttle, inventing internet, working on new laws/theory for human rights, developing better economical models for a more prosperous world, while ACLU was gaining control over common sense, while American ingenuity was benefiting the rest of the world, we Muslims were busy producing over 200 million out of 1.4 billion, Walking, Talking, Non-Thinking, West-Hating, Pre-Programmed, Suicidal, Parasitic, Terrorist Robots. You can't win. The Genie is out of the bottle.

We will use American’s kindness, fairness, compassion, freedom of speech and non-discriminatory policy against them. We will stab them in the back.

What are you going to do? You are doomed.

SOTT

[Sight of the Truth]

Tim--ex-Muslim http://www.chronwatch.com/content/co...907&catcode=13
How odd, this letter seems to mimic so many far right Conservative opinions and scare tactics I've read the past few years on the web. I wonder who anonymous letter writer Tim is.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:59 PM   #75
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First of all, it's defamation, not slander, nothing I posted is incorrect. It's only defamation (as Timber would say) because it's not publicly known and damages the reputation of the belief system.

That's why I said read the words, and ask the religious authorities if "a spade is a spade" without making it known you're not muslim, you might be surprised at the message.

Don't take my word for it, and certainly don't believe the press releases, go ask their religious authorities what the correct interpretation is.

besides It's better that "Tim" remain anonymous, speaking out against Mohommad, and apostacy is punishable by death, look at Theo Van Gogh (Nephew to Vincent). (do a google search)
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:03 PM   #76
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That 'anonymous' letter is an absolute riot. As is the site it was pulled from. Another collection of crap from another right-wing pundit spouting 'truth'. If you actually buy that twaddle as a real letter from a real muslim, you're in need of professional help.
If anyone is truly seeking information, why in hell would they go to a site so obviously slanted and accept something so obviously pandering to the fears of people ignorant of the subject?
 
Old 02-08-2005, 08:16 PM   #77
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That's why I said read the words, and ask the religious authorities if "a spade is a spade" without making it known you're not muslim, you might be surprised at the message.

Don't take my word for it, and certainly don't believe the press releases, go ask their religious authorities what the correct interpretation is.

besides It's better that "Tim" remain anonymous, speaking out against Mohommad, and apostacy is punishable by death, look at Theo Van Gogh (Nephew to Vincent). (do a google search)
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:18 PM   #78
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look at Theo Van Gogh (Nephew to Vincent). (do a google search)
Oh please, you have no idea what you're talking about. For one, do you have any idea who Vincent van Gogh was and when he lived????? It's bloody hilarious. Theo was a remote descendent of him, not a nephew, LMAO!

Anyway. Sorry bout that. *wipes tear from eye*
I live in Amsterdam and if there's one group of people I've had zero problems with it's muslims. What Van Gogh's murderer did was horrible but is in no way representative of the muslim population of my country. Oh and why didn't you mention the 800, yes, EIGHT HUNDRED incidents that happened after van Gogh's death? Mosques have been vandalised, Muslims threatened, racism abounds. How barbaric.

Absynthe - damn straight! It is hilarious (if it weren't so sad) that anyone would actually take that load of BS seriously. I won't even deign that statement with further clarification because anyone who does not already feel this way is beyond the capability of understanding anyway. And yes that's a lame debating tactic, but it's true nonetheless.

Chewbacca - I agree. Calling Christians anything like that would NOT have been allowed. But have you reported the post in question? It might be just that it needs to be reported for measures to be taken.

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Old 02-08-2005, 08:31 PM   #79
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And you're obfuscating the facts, he was murdered in cold blood in broad daylight for making a film that was critical of a barbaric death cult. I'll bet the only statements made by islamic authorities amounted to "we're innocent victims in this" and not a cult that breeds such hostility and hatred that killing a man in cold blood is not only acceptable, but the killers duty, and an act that brings honor on himself and his family, no melisine, it is YOU who have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 02-08-2005, 08:36 PM   #80
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And Melusine, answer this for me, if events like that are such aberrations why are they growing more and more frequent, if it's a tiny minority of extremists. And why won't the muslim community do some "housecleaning" to root out the people who do such harm to their image, perhaps because they are acting in complete accordance with the laws that have been passed down for 1400 years.

I'm waiting for your answer to my question, not laughter, not more cheering for your cheer squad, answer the question in a way that satisfies everyone, and you can honestly believe.
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