08-17-2001, 06:32 PM | #31 |
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I can see you point of view very clearly, but just remember that this world is full of surprises. Love should be unconditional. What happens if during the teen years the child turns away from you as many children do…This could go on for many years during this period. Would you love him or her any less? The love is not nurtued uring this period, but this is when children will need your love the most.
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08-17-2001, 10:15 PM | #32 | |
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There is only one love in my life. My children will never mean as much to me, nor ever get in the way of the love I have for my wife. She means so much more to me than any child could ever. My parents will die, my friends will die, my children may even die before me. But the only loss that will drive me to insanity would be my wife. She is the only one that matters to me. I give her everything. She is the one I made vows to. She is the one that lifts me and helps me through a rough day. She is the one that educates me with her brilliance. She is the one that holds me together. I depend on her alone. I mean that. ------------------ Devoted member of the Ironworks Loyal guardian of the OHF Member of the Ancients' club |
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08-17-2001, 11:02 PM | #33 | |
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------------------ Having abandoned my search for truth, I am now looking for a good fantasy. For R³ in thanks: Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness. [This message has been edited by bilqis (edited 08-17-2001).] |
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08-17-2001, 11:06 PM | #34 |
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Larry I respect your opinion and thanks for a great discussion that I am sure made us all think. I can see where you are coming from even though we disagree.
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08-17-2001, 11:33 PM | #35 | |
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Most people here seem to agree with me to a large extent. Only those that do not have children seem to not understand the concept as well. ------------------ Devoted member of the Ironworks Loyal guardian of the OHF Member of the Ancients' club |
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08-17-2001, 11:38 PM | #36 |
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Well I don't have I child that "i created" I do have a step son that I have been with since he was 6 weeks old. So I understand the crying, whining, sleepless nights, and all that comes with a baby. I did not have a part in his creation I love him just the same. So I can see where you are coming from.
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08-17-2001, 11:51 PM | #37 | |
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Thanks. I did not realize that you had a son. Besides reading these posts, (most of them made me feel better about myself) was the fact that I can share this with Karen alot easier. I can usually write down more from the heart than I can with actual spoken words, because sometimes it takes me so long to express my true feelings. After Karen has been reading these posts, she sees my side more clearly, understands my point of view, and acepts me for who I am, and has told me that I am not wrong for feeling this way. This post has really helped the two of us place our cards on the table and discuss it. I am glad I have her here to support me, as well as all of you.! ------------------ Devoted member of the Ironworks Loyal guardian of the OHF Member of the Ancients' club |
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08-18-2001, 01:06 AM | #38 |
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a simple picnic and going someplace near yet isolated is not that hard and expensive right? thats a good remedy ------------------ Revived I Am to hunt this world... Banish ye evil or face my wrath... |
08-18-2001, 08:38 PM | #39 | |
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This thread has provided me with interesting insights and I've really enjoyed reading it. Fortunately, none of the issues discussed here will ever affect me as I am not planning on having children. I'll rather have only Zoes: the great thing about them is that they are already at age 5, thus cute as hell, when they are delivered and that they will never grow older than 9, thus avoiding the troubles of puberty ! ------------------ So long ! R³ - proud to be the official spokesman for the most noble Lady Bilqis, Desert Rose of Ironworks Btw, the cow is queuing in the slaughterhouse right now ! |
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------------------ Having abandoned my search for truth, I am now looking for a good fantasy. For R³ in thanks: Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness. [This message has been edited by bilqis (edited 08-18-2001).] |
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