Going down like ninepins - who's next?

[Silver Cheetah]

Originally posted by skywalker: I'm expecting a stock market crash in America followed by the rest of the World Markets if this type of business is allowed to continue. Of course the current government favors Big Business over the consumers. Just look at the state of worker rights, the environment and health care. Mark (Hi Cheetah!)

Time for the deregulators to get real. Or then again, maybe not. An ideology is an ideology is an ideology..... Sometimes it's hard to let go...... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Hiya Mark kitten!

[Silver Cheetah]

Originally posted by Cloudbringer: I couldn't find my favorite rolls to make egg salad for the church picnic today ...you think armageddon is nigh?

I reckon the apocalypse is just around the corner, Cloudy...... Don't forget to duck when you hear a rumble. By the way, I hear there are some very fetching yellow masks available now to protect citizens against attack? Who is it that's preaching apocalypse, I wonder?

[/)eathKiller]

I heard apple was in the ranks too T_T waaaah!

at least we can say nintendo isn't [img]tongue.gif[/img]

*and that's how Nintendo came to own the United States*

[Cloudbringer]

Originally posted by John D Harris: Skywalker, don't worry I never have any "Good luck", I guess I can put up my Hank Jr. "A Country Boy will survive" album [/QB]

What about us girls? You sexist Country Boy, you! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I guess I'm just not willing to sit by and accept all the doom and gloom attitudes. Yes, things need fixing or changing but sheesh, just wait five minutes, the news will be about something else and probably get the same reaction. Hey John D...wanna go wail the blues and have us a regulation bbq while the corporate world unravels itself?

[Cloudbringer]

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah: quote: Originally posted by Cloudbringer: I couldn't find my favorite rolls to make egg salad for the church picnic today ...you think armageddon is nigh?

I reckon the apocalypse is just around the corner, Cloudy...... Don't forget to duck when you hear a rumble. By the way, I hear there are some very fetching yellow masks available now to protect citizens against attack? Who is it that's preaching apocalypse, I wonder?[/QUOTE]Dunno, but I'll demand a designer color, iffen I find them.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Cloudbringer: quote: Originally posted by John D Harris: Skywalker, don't worry I never have any "Good luck", I guess I can put up my Hank Jr. "A Country Boy will survive" album

What about us girls? You sexist Country Boy, you! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I guess I'm just not willing to sit by and accept all the doom and gloom attitudes. Yes, things need fixing or changing but sheesh, just wait five minutes, the news will be about something else and probably get the same reaction. Hey John D...wanna go wail the blues and have us a regulation bbq while the corporate world unravels itself? [/QB][/QUOTE]Miss Cloudbringer Ma'am, Where would a country boy like me be with out country girls, or city girls for that matter, I'm an equal opportunity sexist

A bbq sounds great! I won't bring any grits if you don't bring any cream of wheat

[ 06-29-2002, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]

[The Hunter of Jahanna]

Since when was being ruthless a bad thing??

. The West has taken Africa to bits. It began way back, and has continued ever since. Then we want them to compete with us on our terms. And are surprised when they have problems. Corrupt local administrations have vastly added to the problem. This is partly their own falibility, certainly, but the legacy left by colonialism contributed hugely, as you will know if you've studied the subject at all.

This sounds an awful lot like the African Americans still claiming to be owed their "40 acres and a mule" 100 years after the fact. Almost like it is the fault of the more economicaly developed that they cant compete when in reality things that happened over 100 years ago realy dont have any bearing on the current state of affairs.

There is also the fact that America, and to some extent Europe, have and do manipulate world markets to their advantage. It's like rich kids who come from a wealthy background.

It isnt Americas fault that we have a better economy than the rest of the world. Since America was discovered and founded by Europeans , shouldnt the Europeans and other older countries have a better economy than a new countrie?? When America was having the Boston tea party and the revolution European civilization had been flourising for centurys. Why did it all stop??

There is also the fact that what works in the West isn't necessarily the best thing for Africa et al. Some of the techniques, ways of working, concepts and ideologies do not transplant at all well, and can actually do damage.

I have to agree with you here SC. There is no universal way to do everything , but there are things that will always work no matter what your economy is based on. Things like suply and demand , and not chargeing more than the market will bear.

I find it a bit worrying this 'if they can't compete, too bad'. The human population is a collective, you know.

I dont buy that whole human collective idea. What goes on in China or Australia has no effect on how people in other countries live unless they are dependant on that countrie. Look at the collapse of the Soviet Union. The only countries to realy get a raw deal were the countries who depended on Moscow for their way of life.The rest of the world was hardly troubled at all. It is also a good example of being carefull what you wish for. The people wanted an end to communism , now that they have it they live even worse than they did before.

When you're surrounded by billions of starving people in countries world wide,

You should start looking to move into new lands after all the locals die off. Mother nature can be a real b!tch sometimes.

Policies which promote inequality are detrimental to all, in the longrun

I dont promote inequality , just personal responsibility. It is no ones fault but my own if my life sucks.

Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna: I dont buy that whole human collective idea. What goes on in China or Australia has no effect on how people in other countries live unless they are dependant on that countrie.

Umm…
Yes it does, Australia is one of the worlds biggest producers of Iron ore IRRC, now if it were to suddenly stop producing that Ore, Prices everywhere of a most fundamental commodity would suddenly rise, thus creating terrible affects all over the world.
For example many clothes that people wear in America, are made in sweatshops in china or Singapore, if these business’s over there were to collapse, you’d end up paying more for your clothes, with the entire knock on effects that would entail.
Without the Socials life of humans, there is no private life.

Globalisation of capitlism creates these interdependancies, without el cheapo labour in china or wherever there would be no abundence of cheap matriel goods for we in the west to use.

Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna: Things like suply and demand , and not chargeing more than the market will bear.

But those Do *not* work, Indeed those are what the current american economy are supposedly based upon.
All so-called free markets operate in uneven fields of power that have an impact on transactions between buyer and seller.

Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna: You should start looking to move into new lands after all the locals die off. Mother nature can be a real b!tch sometimes.

Are you saying it's okay for the strong to take what they like, and the weak must thenceforth bow to them, simply because in certain aspects they are weaker?

Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna: I dont promote inequality , just personal responsibility. It is no ones fault but my own if my life sucks.

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If you were a Jew, and the Nazis came along and put you in a concentration camp (which would indeed make your life suck), It is your fault for being a Jew?

Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna: Things like suply and demand , and not chargeing more than the market will bear.

But those Do *not* work, Indeed those are what the current american economy are supposedly based upon.
All so-called free markets operate in uneven fields of power that have an impact on transactions between buyer and seller.

Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna: You should start looking to move into new lands after all the locals die off. Mother nature can be a real b!tch sometimes.

Are you saying it's okay for the strong to take what they like, and the weak must thenceforth bow to them, simply because in certain aspects they are weaker?

Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna: I dont promote inequality , just personal responsibility. It is no ones fault but my own if my life sucks.

If you were a Jew, and the Nazis came along and put you in a concentration camp (which would indeed make your life "suck"), It is your fault for being a Jew?