Whats easier?

[Shadow]

Whats easier?

BG1 or BG2?

I think that BG1 was easier because everyones mind was so easily Charm Personed.

I can hardly charm anyone in BG2!

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The Black Killer

[BlackAssassin]

And the time of charm/domination is shortened significantly. When the load screen is showing it tells you in the hints.

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[Draggor]

BG1 was easier. No wizards with death spells, no mind flayers that suck your brains out through your nose.

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WAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

[onthepequod]

Originally posted by Draggor: BG1 was easier. No wizards with death spells, no mind flayers that suck your brains out through your nose.

True, but then again in BGII you can summon skeleton warriors, Mordiken’s sword, Pit Fiends, etc. Not to mention spells like incendiary cloud, Albadzim’s (sp?) Horrid Wilting, etc…. And then with ToB installed you have access to Time Stop, etc….

I think they both pose difficulties. Yet I do believe that BGII has greater replay value.



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[Waluin]

Originally posted by onthepequod: True, but then again in BGII you can summon skeleton warriors, Mordiken’s sword, Pit Fiends, etc. Not to mention spells like incendiary cloud, Albadzim’s (sp?) Horrid Wilting, etc…. And then with ToB installed you have access to Time Stop, etc…. I think they both pose difficulties. Yet I do believe that BGII has greater replay value.

Agreed. Some of the spells that I have...oh man they make me giddy!! That, and I have ToB installed too. OOh, and the sword, aye

berry berry good game. I will most definitely try it with an evil party when I replay it. (or at least a differnet primary character, perhaps a paladin)

[Sigmar]

I think bg1 is harder, you have less magic items to rely on. You actually had to use tatics in almost every fight(not the usual barge into room and kill people quickly tatic).It was just harder, a sword spider was deadly in bg1 but in 2 even bonegolems are a push over after a while.

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[onthepequod]

Originally posted by Waluin: Agreed. Some of the spells that I have...oh man they make me giddy!! That, and I have ToB installed too.

I just installed ToB last night and can't wait until my Sorcerer can use those level 10 spells.

I am also thinking about playing the Wild Mage just to see the random effects and for no other reason.





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[onthepequod]

Originally posted by onthepequod: True, but then again in BGII you can summon skeleton warriors, Mordiken’s sword, Pit Fiends, etc. Not to mention spells like incendiary cloud, Albadzim’s (sp?) Horrid Wilting, etc…. And then with ToB installed you have access to Time Stop, etc…. I think they both pose difficulties. Yet I do believe that BGII has greater replay value.

I forgot to mention items like the staff of magi, which can make enemies like Mind Flayers a push over since you can kill them before they even know you are there.





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[Shadow]

Originally posted by onthepequod: True, but then again in BGII you can summon skeleton warriors, Mordiken’s sword, Pit Fiends, etc. Not to mention spells like incendiary cloud, Albadzim’s (sp?) Horrid Wilting, etc…. And then with ToB installed you have access to Time Stop, etc…. I think they both pose difficulties. Yet I do believe that BGII has greater replay value.

You cant cast those spells because you dont really need to.


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The Black Killer

[Nerull]

I think that BG2 is harder, and should be. You may have access to stronger abilities, but so do your opponents. However, there are 2 factors that I see making BG2 harder than BG1:

1. You are limited to only 5 summons. One of the sure-fire tactics to handle any hard encounter in BG1 was to send a horde of creatures at the opponent; generally, you would keep the wizards pounding out summons while your party's archers picked apart the opponent. In the final fight with Sarevok, my computer was running at a snail's pace, due to all of the summons I had out! By limiting you to 5 summons, this forces your party to actually engage many of the harder opponents (i.e. forcing you to actually be heroic, instead of hiding behind your summons).

2. Most of the protective magics that make creatures harder in BG2 did not exist in BG1. Especially during the later parts of the game, you are spending more time knocking down opponent defenses than you are actually sending attack spells at the opponent. In BG1, you usually could just send your fighters in at a mage, hacking away at stuff like Mirror Image and Stoneskin until they fell. A couple of magic missiles from your wizards, and the opposing mage was toast. You can't do that in BG2; try that with a lich and see how quickly he Meteor Swarms you to death. You may also have access to these abilities for your character, but overall a duel between magic-users in BG2 involves more "mystical jousting" to tear down defenses, while in BG1 it was more "disrupt the other wizard before he casts."

Just my opinion, of course!


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