Umar Hills - possible spoiler

Derfel Cadarn · 08-17-2004, 08:58 PM

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Okay, well all of you guys know that kid Delon, he is the lil' one that points out Umar Hills in the map. Well, just fine, I have completed all of Umar hills quests, including the ones I'm bound to for being their Ranger. So after a few quests I get to the graveyard and there is that boy Delon and he talks to me as if it's the first time ever, so he tells me to go check out Imnesvale, and talk with Min. Lloyd, I do so, and he just thanks me for saving his village, but whenever I talk to Delon it's the same story, and my journal says in the quests as if I had never been there!! It pisses the hell outta me, i want all my done quests to stay DONE hehe.
Something else, what about those boys thats ask you to buy some beer and swords, well I bought'em, but been a loooong time and so far nothing happened, the quest is still open as if I should worry 'bout completing... well, perhaps that's the point with buying ale and swords to young lads.. to make you worried 'bout them.. hm. well, any thoughts bout any of these matters would be most apreciated, g'bye.

Imrahil · 08-17-2004, 10:15 PM

It sounds like you have a bug with the 2nd Delon & quests not being completed - standard questions: are you patched? do you have MOD's installed? 'Cause that's not normal.

As for the kids (Idle Hands) quest... *you don't want to complete that one!!!* Given that you're a Ranger, don't do what I'm about to tell you or you'll Fall, losing your Ranger class (I'm actually surprised you didn't Fall already) with no chance to regain it since you've already done Umar...

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Anyway, if you give the kids Ale & Bastard Swords, then complete the Umar Hills quests, then return to the cave where you get the Mimic Blood, you'll find the kids, scared out of their wits 'cause they're facing a "dragon" (actually a gibberling). If you slay the mighty gibberling, the Idle Hands in Umar quest will be "completed", but if you're a Ranger, you should Fall for giving them Ale & Swords in the first place.

- Imrahil

Derfel Cadarn · 08-17-2004, 10:48 PM

Yup I´m patched and got no mods runnin loose. Except for Soulafein's mod that I think I have installed, not sure tho. I just don't know whats up with that brat Delon.
And about the kids I will probably check out that cave sometime hehe. thx a bunch fer the help.

IronDragon · 08-18-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by Imrahil:

Anyway, if you give the kids Ale & Bastard Swords, then complete the Umar Hills quests, then return to the cave where you get the Mimic Blood, you'll find the kids, scared out of their wits 'cause they're facing a "dragon" (actually a gibberling). If you slay the mighty gibberling, the Idle Hands in Umar quest will be "completed", but if you're a Ranger, you should Fall for giving them Ale & Swords in the first place.

- Imrahil [/QB]

Interesting…my kids have allows faced an umber hulk

Elwin Shian · 08-18-2004, 06:17 AM

I just complete the game playing a neutral good Ranger and i gave the kids the alcohol (reminded me of my youth and i took pity!)but no swords (bad, bad, bad). I found them a little worse for wear in the cave next time i got called to Innesville. I didn't get any bad consequences from it though............and i don't remeber there being any monsters second time in there?

Dundee Slaytern · 08-18-2004, 07:22 AM

What monster the kids face, depends on what you bought them.

White Lancer · 08-18-2004, 08:55 AM

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There are always 2 (i think) umberhulks in that cave, and i think they're still there when the kids are if you havent killed them before. However, i havent done that quest for a LOOOOOOONG time and may be wrong.

pritchke · 08-18-2004, 02:42 PM

I have always found the journal a little buggy. Sometimes you go through the game and you have a blank outstanding quest page than other times you still do all the quest but don't go through the game completely the same and there is still text on the outstanding quest page. I just ignore it as it as already been done even though I prefer to clean the slate.

[ 08-18-2004, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

Neomi · 08-18-2004, 06:00 PM

Have you gone back to talk to the mayor's wife? She will give you some "feedback" about your decision to give the boys the booze and bastard swords. Maybe that will "complete" the journal entry?

JayS · 08-18-2004, 08:32 PM

Well, I learned from the GBPITBSOATQ4 that:

"If you have erroneous or unneccesary quest entries cluttering up your Journal (such as Delon telling you about the Umar Hills quests in Chapter 6, when you already completed them in Chapter 2), you can edit or delete them simply by double-clicking on them."

You could do that to remove your journal entry.

08-17-2004, 08:58 PM	#1
Derfel Cadarn Dungeon Master Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Brazil Age: 38 Posts: 90	SPOILAAAA ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' Okay, well all of you guys know that kid Delon, he is the lil' one that points out Umar Hills in the map. Well, just fine, I have completed all of Umar hills quests, including the ones I'm bound to for being their Ranger. So after a few quests I get to the graveyard and there is that boy Delon and he talks to me as if it's the first time ever, so he tells me to go check out Imnesvale, and talk with Min. Lloyd, I do so, and he just thanks me for saving his village, but whenever I talk to Delon it's the same story, and my journal says in the quests as if I had never been there!! It pisses the hell outta me, i want all my done quests to stay DONE hehe. Something else, what about those boys thats ask you to buy some beer and swords, well I bought'em, but been a loooong time and so far nothing happened, the quest is still open as if I should worry 'bout completing... well, perhaps that's the point with buying ale and swords to young lads.. to make you worried 'bout them.. hm. well, any thoughts bout any of these matters would be most apreciated, g'bye. __________________ \"Be bold and mighty forces will come in your aid.\"<br />Goethe

08-17-2004, 10:48 PM	#3
Derfel Cadarn Dungeon Master Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Brazil Age: 38 Posts: 90	Yup I´m patched and got no mods runnin loose. Except for Soulafein's mod that I think I have installed, not sure tho. I just don't know whats up with that brat Delon. And about the kids I will probably check out that cave sometime hehe. thx a bunch fer the help. __________________ \"Be bold and mighty forces will come in your aid.\"<br />Goethe

08-18-2004, 08:55 AM	#7
White Lancer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 30, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 38 Posts: 628	SPOILERS ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` There are always 2 (i think) umberhulks in that cave, and i think they're still there when the kids are if you havent killed them before. However, i havent done that quest for a LOOOOOOONG time and may be wrong. __________________ It deons\'t mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it olny mtaetrs taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be croecrt. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it. The huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

08-18-2004, 06:00 PM	#9
Neomi Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 28, 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 52 Posts: 312	Have you gone back to talk to the mayor's wife? She will give you some "feedback" about your decision to give the boys the booze and bastard swords. Maybe that will "complete" the journal entry? __________________ \"Though we name the things we know, we do not necessarily know the things we name.\" -Homer W. Smith

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08-17-2004, 10:15 PM	#2
Imrahil Elminster Join Date: November 4, 2001 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 469	It sounds like you have a bug with the 2nd Delon & quests not being completed - standard questions: are you patched? do you have MOD's installed? 'Cause that's not normal. As for the kids (Idle Hands) quest... you don't want to complete that one!!! Given that you're a Ranger, don't do what I'm about to tell you or you'll Fall, losing your Ranger class (I'm actually surprised you didn't Fall already) with no chance to regain it since you've already done Umar... . . . obligatory spoiler space regarding those kids in Umar Hills . . . Anyway, if you give the kids Ale & Bastard Swords, then complete the Umar Hills quests, then return to the cave where you get the Mimic Blood, you'll find the kids, scared out of their wits 'cause they're facing a "dragon" (actually a gibberling). If you slay the mighty gibberling, the Idle Hands in Umar quest will be "completed", but if you're a Ranger, you should Fall for giving them Ale & Swords in the first place. - Imrahil

08-18-2004, 06:17 AM	#5
Elwin Shian Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 29, 2004 Location: Southampton Age: 46 Posts: 17	I just complete the game playing a neutral good Ranger and i gave the kids the alcohol (reminded me of my youth and i took pity!)but no swords (bad, bad, bad). I found them a little worse for wear in the cave next time i got called to Innesville. I didn't get any bad consequences from it though............and i don't remeber there being any monsters second time in there?

08-18-2004, 07:22 AM	#6
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	What monster the kids face, depends on what you bought them.

08-18-2004, 02:42 PM	#8
pritchke Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: September 5, 2001 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 49 Posts: 3,491	I have always found the journal a little buggy. Sometimes you go through the game and you have a blank outstanding quest page than other times you still do all the quest but don't go through the game completely the same and there is still text on the outstanding quest page. I just ignore it as it as already been done even though I prefer to clean the slate. [ 08-18-2004, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

08-18-2004, 08:32 PM	#10
JayS Dungeon Master Join Date: August 11, 2004 Location: California Age: 34 Posts: 85	Well, I learned from the GBPITBSOATQ4 that: "If you have erroneous or unneccesary quest entries cluttering up your Journal (such as Delon telling you about the Umar Hills quests in Chapter 6, when you already completed them in Chapter 2), you can edit or delete them simply by double-clicking on them." You could do that to remove your journal entry.

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