Footage of Columbine Gunmen

[Dreamer128]

Video Of Shooters Practicing

Oct. 22 - Footage of the Columbine High School gunmen Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold laughing and firing guns in woodland Colorado has been released.

http://reuters.com/videoJump.jhtml?v...1ce5e6f290fbe9

Source: Reuters

[Memnoch]

I thought that was footage of them actually having at it... [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img]

[Faceman]

OH MY GOD!
half of the weapons they use would be illegal here in Austria.
It's enough to equip a small terrorist group - Then again that is what they were sort of

[Ziroc]

One of those was a tek9mm I think, and another machine gun I saw with a silencer. Then another--an Usi 9mm with a stock. Jesus, I never did that crap when I was 16.. totally crazy... and sad.


Here is a Tek9:



[ 10-28-2003, 05:42 AM: Message edited by: Ziroc ]

[Faceman]

small nitpick,
this appears to be a Tec-9M (mini)
the normal Tec-9 has a longer barrel with the characteristic holey design.
I couldn't positively identify the other ones, but one of them looked like some sort of AK (maybe an AK5).
Except for the common pistols everything else would be illegal for private use here in Austria:
+ automatic weapons
+ pump-action shotguns
+ assault weaponry
are illegal for private use here.
I think going out for shooting is fun, I honestly do. I have never fired a live gun, only played Gotcha with some friends with 6mm BB pellets, but I find guns fascinating and read up a lot on firearms and other weaponry.
Yet I would never want to own one. These things are incredible dangerous and I couldn't bear the responsibility of it falling into an inexperienced or crazy persons hands. And to say it clear again: Weapons like a Tec-9 are made for only one reason. Kill people.
Yes you can use it as a threat without wanting to kill somebody, but the fact remains that the gun was designed to be fired not to be waved around.
If you asked me I would advacate a ban on everything other than hunting rifles and small Revolvers (as opposed to Pistols, so no more PPK but still Colt Detective) for private use.
And I don't like the: "Then only criminals would have weapons" argument because: That's what the police is for, catching armed criminals. And to risk tragedies like Columbine just because some people want to go Bruce Willis on a burglar is outright stupid IMHO. And remember that with a gun in the house you are more likely to get shot during a burglary.

[johnny]

If you put the gun on your doormat, yes. I don't see how else chances are bigger you get shot during a burglary. If you keep it close to your bed, it's the other way around.

[Donut]

Originally posted by johnny: If you put the gun on your doormat, yes. I don't see how else chances are bigger you get shot during a burglary. If you keep it close to your bed, it's the other way around.

But if you are a responsible gun owner (as they all claim to be), your gun will be locked away.

[Timber Loftis]

A gun totally locked away wouldn't help much, now would it? The responsible family member just might keep it in reach. I've been in situations where you have to chase someone off. It happens.

Anyway, except for the fact they had *more* guns, these kids don't seem very different than we were at that age. If we'd have been able to get our hands on more guns and shoot them, we would have. It's just that I don't look at them and get automatic alarms going off. Young men like to shoot guns. I've seen many guys act like them who never ended up murdering anyone.

[Donut]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: A gun totally locked away wouldn't help much, now would it? The responsible family member just might keep it in reach. I've been in situations where you have to chase someone off. It happens. Anyway, except for the fact they had *more* guns, these kids don't seem very different than we were at that age. If we'd have been able to get our hands on more guns and shoot them, we would have. It's just that I don't look at them and get automatic alarms going off. Young men like to shoot guns. I've seen many guys act like them who never ended up murdering anyone.

Every two hours an American child is killed by a gun.

[Ar-Cunin]

Originally posted by Donut: Every two hours an American child is killed by a gun.

But - apparently - that is a price worth paying, for having free access to guns