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johnny · 08-19-2002, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:

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Originally posted by Morgan_Corbesant:
johnny, i guess i wasnt thorough enough with my wording. all im saying is, the next time something happens, i hope America asks WHY we should help. i mean hell, if everyone in Europe hates us, then why the hell should we even help them? that is all im getting at. i didnt mean that i HOPE something happens there, geeze.

but you must know that at least in Holland noone hates the US. [/QUOTE]Thats odd, most dutch people I have came in contact with seem to have a very strong dislike for America. Of course they give you that "oh its not america, its just a the courupted polotians you have" bullshit.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that is strange. Of couse i know people like this too, but that's just a few. And like i said most of them have Arab backgrounds.

WOLFGIR · 08-19-2002, 05:32 AM

Well I would have to say that as a European guy.. I like some of US and I don´t like some other parts of US.

I like some of the people I have met from there. Some I don´t like to meet at all.

I think there are good americans, bad americans, good europeans, bad europeans.

So what?

I don´t like the "we helped you there", "why didn´t you" etc etc etc from BOTH parts. It is all taken care of over all of our heads anyway. Sure we vote, for what? Democracy? Yeah right, think again. We don´t know half of what is going on, and to try and get it straight here where people WILL take sides wether they like it or not... well it´s wroking perfect don´t you agree??

skywalker · 08-19-2002, 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by Donut:
the only people replying are those who are still at school and those extremists who have never been taught the meaning of the word 'paragraph'.

I find your summation of people responding on this thread a little insulting, Donut. I guess I must fall in the latter of the two categories since I've not been in school since 1978.

Mark

Davros · 08-19-2002, 06:03 AM

Well spoken Lioness, and well summarised by my ole pal Donut. The post was a bit blunt for your usual style though buddy - I couldn't find the subtitle

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Move along people - nothing to see here.

Go D'Backs [img]smile.gif[/img]

the new JR Jansen · 08-19-2002, 06:15 AM

OK, i followed this thread and i decided to throw in my opinion about what was said.

First, the WTC. Look, you can't blame them for 'whining'. Somebody killed a whole lot of people. Everybody would 'whine'. But, the thing that struck me the most was that they didn't need help. At least, i know from that time that my country had a transport plane ready with doctors and nurses. The US wouldn't let them in because they didn't need them. From what i saw, the US needed every hand they could get. But they obviously needed noone from us. Besides later on when the war on terrorism was going on, don't forget who helped you out. Bush had to ask us, this little country, to help and give them planes to patrol their own airspace, but that get's forgotten.

The WW2. This is something i'm sick of hearing. The USA didn't come because they had to fight a tyrant that they wouldn't want any more, they joined the wat because they got their own noose bloody. They joined the war because of self preservation. Did they make an impact, yes of course. But saying that they saved our asses is greatly exagarated. The other point is that Hitler didn't loose the war against the Americans. He lost it against the Russians. He took a foolish risk and got his butt kicked in Russia. Then the Americans came in and basically took out what was left. Even without the Americans, Hitler would sooner or later loose. The only thin that they did was speed up the process.

And hoping that something happens here so that you can have the joy of denying help is.............wrong.

Donut · 08-19-2002, 06:20 AM

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Originally posted by skywalker:

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Originally posted by Donut:
the only people replying are those who are still at school and those extremists who have never been taught the meaning of the word 'paragraph'.

I find your summation of people responding on this thread a little insulting, Donut. I guess I must fall in the latter of the two categories since I've not been in school since 1978.

Mark[/QUOTE]I think you'll find yourself covered in the 'in the main' category skywalker. [img]smile.gif[/img]

K T Ong · 08-19-2002, 06:32 AM

I've read that people in control of the media in the US actually keep the general populace pretty much in the dark with respect to a lot of things...

the new JR Jansen · 08-19-2002, 06:37 AM

Oh, forgot something. I remember someone posting a quote from an American sports announcer in the soccer thread and it stated that he couldn't believe how the entire world is watching something as BOORING as soccer, when the American sports are so MUCH MORE entertaining. It's probably things like that that po the rest of the world.

Donut · 08-19-2002, 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by skywalker:
I find your summation of people responding on this thread a little insulting, Donut. I guess I must fall in the latter of the two categories since I've not been in school since 1978.

Mark

You selected a portion of my quote and left out the qualifying comment ('in the main'). Given that your post was one of the reasons I qualified my statement it's somewhat ironic that you left it out.

[ 08-19-2002, 06:42 AM: Message edited by: Donut ]

johnny · 08-19-2002, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by Donut:

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Originally posted by johnny:
After all, if it wasn't for the US, my ass would be speaking German right now.

Whatever language you use it's time you stopped talking out of your ass johnny.[/QUOTE]Could you explain that please ?

08-19-2002, 05:32 AM	#42
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 3,450	Well I would have to say that as a European guy.. I like some of US and I don´t like some other parts of US. I like some of the people I have met from there. Some I don´t like to meet at all. I think there are good americans, bad americans, good europeans, bad europeans. So what? I don´t like the "we helped you there", "why didn´t you" etc etc etc from BOTH parts. It is all taken care of over all of our heads anyway. Sure we vote, for what? Democracy? Yeah right, think again. We don´t know half of what is going on, and to try and get it straight here where people WILL take sides wether they like it or not... well it´s wroking perfect don´t you agree?? __________________ Don´t eat the yellow snow

08-19-2002, 06:03 AM	#44
Davros Takhisis Follower Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Mandurah, West Australia Age: 60 Posts: 5,073	Well spoken Lioness, and well summarised by my ole pal Donut. The post was a bit blunt for your usual style though buddy - I couldn't find the subtitle . Move along people - nothing to see here. Go D'Backs [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Davros was right - just ask JD

08-19-2002, 06:15 AM	#45
the new JR Jansen Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: May 8, 2002 Location: chocolate land Age: 49 Posts: 696	OK, i followed this thread and i decided to throw in my opinion about what was said. First, the WTC. Look, you can't blame them for 'whining'. Somebody killed a whole lot of people. Everybody would 'whine'. But, the thing that struck me the most was that they didn't need help. At least, i know from that time that my country had a transport plane ready with doctors and nurses. The US wouldn't let them in because they didn't need them. From what i saw, the US needed every hand they could get. But they obviously needed noone from us. Besides later on when the war on terrorism was going on, don't forget who helped you out. Bush had to ask us, this little country, to help and give them planes to patrol their own airspace, but that get's forgotten. The WW2. This is something i'm sick of hearing. The USA didn't come because they had to fight a tyrant that they wouldn't want any more, they joined the wat because they got their own noose bloody. They joined the war because of self preservation. Did they make an impact, yes of course. But saying that they saved our asses is greatly exagarated. The other point is that Hitler didn't loose the war against the Americans. He lost it against the Russians. He took a foolish risk and got his butt kicked in Russia. Then the Americans came in and basically took out what was left. Even without the Americans, Hitler would sooner or later loose. The only thin that they did was speed up the process. And hoping that something happens here so that you can have the joy of denying help is.............wrong. __________________ JR<br /><br /><br /><br />It\'s me. The guy with the cloak big enough for a fire giant and the long nose.<br />Owner of the most visited woodshed in Ironworks\' history.

08-19-2002, 06:32 AM	#47
K T Ong Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 27, 2002 Location: Plateau of Singapore Age: 60 Posts: 1,230	I've read that people in control of the media in the US actually keep the general populace pretty much in the dark with respect to a lot of things... __________________ <br />Look! Everyone\'s admiring me! <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Big Grin]\" src=\"biggrin.gif\" />

08-19-2002, 06:37 AM	#48
the new JR Jansen Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: May 8, 2002 Location: chocolate land Age: 49 Posts: 696	Oh, forgot something. I remember someone posting a quote from an American sports announcer in the soccer thread and it stated that he couldn't believe how the entire world is watching something as BOORING as soccer, when the American sports are so MUCH MORE entertaining. It's probably things like that that po the rest of the world. __________________ JR<br /><br /><br /><br />It\'s me. The guy with the cloak big enough for a fire giant and the long nose.<br />Owner of the most visited woodshed in Ironworks\' history.

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