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Old 11-26-2002, 04:04 PM   #21
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Thanks Sazerac, its good to hear im not the only one who doesnt want war, what a horrible Era we are about to encounter...
Many lives will be lost soon, i know it, Many....

The future is dark, very dark, and its all thanks to individuals, not countries, individuals.... Why go to war with the countriess...

Its the terrorists we want, just cause they come from that country, doesnt make it the countries fault!
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:05 PM   #22
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How would you make peace with this scum? Would you bend forward and let them have their way? Or would you fight back? Or maybe you're one of those people who think that good intentions will solve everything.
I want peace, Justice, Long Hair, brotherly love and shampoo & conditioner.

BTW talking or diplomacy is the best to accomplish things useully,
It what they want, for you to strike out with violence.
Ask yourself... Why do they attack us?

Because of Israel, Beaucase of Saudi, Because of a thousand and one sins our governments have committed on our behalf

Yes they do wrong by attacking us, but the Governments of the west have done the greatest wrong.
It is their fault in the end, and as always the innocent everyday people pay the price.
 
Old 11-26-2002, 04:07 PM   #23
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That's what I said, Bman...if you aren't muslim AND act like that, then you are "other." Even peacable, moderate muslims are the enemy to these freaks. Like they "sold out" to us.
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:07 PM   #24
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I see...
Im obviously alone in this debait, (im here, eating my cheese) and just thinking of england and america in 30 years time, rubble, population gone down drematicaly...

this is my view, im afraid i will have to stick to it...
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:11 PM   #25
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This isnt war on terror,
This is a difference of opinion (in religion) people take religion to seriously, if it says to love and care in your religion, then why do they fight over whos is the best one?
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:12 PM   #26
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Who the heck is going to reduce England and US to rubble and wipe out our populations? It's never going to be that bad. Thankfully, we're going to stop it before it can. We never declared war on Afghanistan, just the Al-Queda in power, we removed them and are now helping the innocents rebuild to better than before. We are removing the oppression that was there. It would never have happened peacefully.

Eisen, diplomacy only works when demands are reasonable. These people want us ALL TO DIE. How do you reach a compromise?

Bin-Laden: We want you all dead
USA: We want no one dead, not even you, but we will if we have to
Laden: ALL
USA: how about 50%? We'll kill 1/2 our people, then we will have met in the middle.

Is that the plan?
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:13 PM   #27
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eisenschwarz:
quote:
Originally posted by khazadman:
How would you make peace with this scum? Would you bend forward and let them have their way? Or would you fight back? Or maybe you're one of those people who think that good intentions will solve everything.
I want peace, Justice, Long Hair, brotherly love and shampoo & conditioner.

BTW talking or diplomacy is the best to accomplish things useully,
It what they want, for you to strike out with violence.
Ask yourself... Why do they attack us?

Because of Israel, Beaucase of Saudi, Because of a thousand and one sins our governments have committed on our behalf

Yes they do wrong by attacking us, but the Governments of the west have done the greatest wrong.
It is their fault in the end, and as always the innocent everyday people pay the price.
[/QUOTE]There is no "Blame" or "fault" in this F'd up situation. It is too complex to try and wade through. The bottom line is, there are a small bunch of people trying to dictate and force their views on the rest of the world through the use of indescriminate violence. Everyone has a cross-hairs on their chest unless you fit the above description.
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:15 PM   #28
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Originally posted by Gilgamesh:
I see...
Im obviously alone in this debait, (im here, eating my cheese) and just thinking of england and america in 30 years time, rubble, population gone down drematicaly...

this is my view, im afraid i will have to stick to it...
No, you aren't really alone G, there are others who share your POV here, they just haven't seen this thread yet. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I think the point most here are making is that something has to be done. Your apocalyptic future is a certainty if nothing is done and the radicals are allowed to continue unchecked.

realblinky, your assessment of normal Muslims having sold out, according to the radicals, is right on.

EDIT - I see you have company now! Eisen's in the house, hi E. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 11-26-2002, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:15 PM   #29
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Yes but realize the situation, THIS IS WAR!
You saw england, germany, france in world war1 and 2, believe me it aint pretty, the last war my grandad has lost 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 eye, and the ability to talk...

He suffers from shell shock, he is 79 now, and he was the lucky one, because he survived, he has told me many sickening stories about war, i really dont want this, look at pictures on the internet of war and its devistation...
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:21 PM   #30
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THIS IS THE IMPACT OF WAR:
http://www.worldwar2-pictures.com/Th...ofBritain.html

OR MAYBE YOU WANT SOMTHING A LITTLE LOCAL FOR ALL YOU AMERICANS?
http://www.worldwar2-pictures.com/Th...ofBritain.html

THIS IS REALITY, THIS ISNT A GAME WHERE YOU CAN COME BACK TO LIFE WHEN YOU HAVE DIED, THIS IS THE TRUTH. LIVE IT, REALIZE IT...

I am going to prepair for this war... I have already been shot once, when i was on holiday in New york... It happens so quick at first, that you dont feel it, give it time and it hurts like hell!
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