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Taiwan is still free from the communist rule of China. [ 09-10-2004, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: Knightscape ]
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I'm not saying What is going on in Iraq is O.K. What I am saying is Tibet is a free country and should be left alone. Why do you think before China took over in the 50s Tibet had 6000 monistaries and now they only have 6. That seems to me to be repression of the Tibetan people. [ 09-10-2004, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: Nightwing ]
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09-10-2004, 04:50 PM | #43 |
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It's important for human rights groups to stay neutral on whatever they're examining, because they appear that way. So that issue aside, the possibility of the government-sponsored targetting of the pro-democracy voters with threatening phone calls etc is much worse than the parade. If the allegations are true, it paints the situation in a different light than we might see coming from a national source. However, they're just allegations at this point, not condemnations.
Whether or not HRW is worthy of your ire I think depends on whether or not they're being neutral and honest. If they're not then their role in "all those important issues" comes into question, but if they are we shouldn't dismiss them outright. |
09-10-2004, 06:15 PM | #44 |
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Besides the question of independance, there is also the human rights situation in Tibet.
This is from the much hated ( )Human Rights Watch, and this is a copy of a UN rapport on torture in Tibet. |
09-10-2004, 06:55 PM | #45 | ||
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Taiwan is still free from the communist rule of China. [/QUOTE]Ah I see.. for a moment there I thought President Chen finnally had the balls to hold the referendum and taiwanese finally decide what they want. Thanks for clearing that up. [img]tongue.gif[/img] |
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Taiwan is still free from the communist rule of China. [/QUOTE]Ah I see.. for a moment there I thought President Chen finnally had the balls to hold the referendum and taiwanese finally decide what they want. Thanks for clearing that up. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]No problem. Speaking of "decide what they want" how soon until deomocratic elections will be held in China?
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09-10-2004, 09:45 PM | #48 |
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Perhaps you should have a parade for your scientists. They won most of the medals for you!
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First it was Macau, then came Hong Kong coming back to China. I would like to see Taiwan do the same too. When that will happen is another matter entirely. [/QUOTE]Macau was leased by Portugal Hong Kong was leased by the British Empire Taiwan was not leased by any European power. It exists under a self determined course. Which is in effect - no matter what China may say, or what nations don't acknowledge - INDEPENDANCE. [/QUOTE]You were suspended for 2 weeks YORICK. Yes, We KNOW it's you, --using another account, sneaking in. Unless you wish to be suspended *permanently*, you need to email the mods and myself with a VERY good reason why you did this.
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Yorick, that was unwise to do that, mate...
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